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Re: anyone else think anime sucks? [message #442690 is a reply to message #432502]

Fri, 14 January 2011 22:02

R315r4z0r
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R315r4z0r wrote on Sat, 10 July 2010 06:30

Ryu wrote on Fri, 09 July 2010 22:25

That is kind of a feeble realization to come to, back when I was like 13-14 and someone tried to tell me how retarded anime was they would always show me videos of that "KAWAIII DESU" shite and I believed them, I told my mate about it and he verbally slapped me in the face and showed me some real anime, boy did I feel like a hypocrite, Cowboy Bebop, Hellsings etc, Pure awesome.

Most importantly, Cowboy Bebop, is most probably the best anime ever produced. The soundtrack is excellent and the English dubs are brilliant. The movies released along side it are exceptional and is probably the best space themed anime out there, not to mention the script writing and dialog, After watching the first 3 episodes of that my opinion of anime changed dramatically.

You ended up liking it because you enjoy story telling. Like I said, ignorance does play a part, but it isn't the main factor.

There are people out there who just don't like to sit through a story unless it's piled up with tons of constant action.

While there are a lot of action anime out there, it's a bit of a stretch to get someone who isn't into listening to a story to sit down and watch it; let alone keep track of an episode count and watch it in sequential order.

Also, as a side note: Lucky Star is awesome! It's just like Seinfeld; just that the main characters are high school girls and the animation is more moe than anything. But seriously, it's a show about nothing.

For some reason, I remembered this thread and then I thought of an example to add to my argument:

One of the most loved anime series (especially in the US) is Cowboy Bebop.

You ever hear an anime hater say "Anime sux! Except I do like Cowboy Bebop..." It's because Cowboy Bebop is able to satisfy the attention of western audiences much better than many other shows. How can this be? Well it's because that even though there is a grand story line that undermines the entire series, each episode also holds a self-contained plot of it's own. You can pick up and watch any episode without being left out of the loop.

Another example of a show like this would be Ghost in the Shell. That anime also has a lot of supporters.

And, technically speaking, Lucky Star also follows that same format... but the only reason why that show isn't as popular should be pretty obvious: it looks like it belongs on a pre-school network.

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