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Re: Who is the best Renegade player(s) nowadays? [message #440935 is a reply to message #440932] Mon, 06 December 2010 12:14 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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GoTWhisKéY wrote on Mon, 06 December 2010 13:04

Who was it who brought lobby war results into this thread to being with... You asked for it Spoony by using that first series as an example.

please don't be dense, whiskey. i brought up all sorts of things that could be used as evidence, hitman said that almost all of them (i.e. everything that supported my side) is inadmissible.

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You say you're not going to drop down and make excuses, but the last 2 or 3 messages you've written, do have many excuses in them.
It seems when Spoony wins a series of lobby wars, it matters in the 'who's best' debate, but when Hitman wins, it doesn't mean as much since you apparently your excuses are more valid than ours? Just a few contradictions going on I think.

again, you're being very dense here. i don't say any particular game doesn't count, though hitman lied and said i did say that. he, by contrast, said islands didn't count for the same reasons i gave when i talked about those games - difference is, i don't say the games didn't count because of it. the team that won volcano won volcano, the team that won under won under, etc. i'm fine with that. hitman wants to present them as evidence? fine, let's talk about what actually happened in the games. volcano was a 8v6 he won by three seconds. under was a 8v6 he won by 200 points. sure, the results are the results, he did win. does it prove he's better than me? if anything it casts serious doubt on the motion. if it was a 8v6, shouldn't you win by more than 3 seconds on volcano, or 200 points on under?

by contrast, look at the excuses hitman made about the earlier stuff. usually it was "i wasn't trying". well, we've been seriously discussing how to organise these games to minimise the problems caused by players joining and going afk all game. we generally seem to recognise this as a problem. when it's his team that suffers from it, hitman says the game doesn't count. well, i never thought islands was worthwhile in the first place, though hitman lied and said i did. by contrast, nobody has to pay the slightest bit of attention to "i wasn't trying".

and since you mention the earlier series of lobbywars i mentioned earlier, nobody went afk at all. the teams were evenly numbered in every game.

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This isn't a clanwar... people are going to go afk, teams aren't going to be fair all the time. I thought everyone understood that when the games started.

i certainly did, that's why i didn't say that any of those games didn't count, as hitman said with islands. i simply said that for hitman to claim that winning a 8v6 by three seconds is not such the damning evidence for his case that he seems to think it is.

and, as i've said before, when it's my team that suffers from these kind of problems, i just play on. hitman's team pulled an ENORMOUS ragequit because of it.


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