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Starbuzzz
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@ R3: emo-hotline? councling office? pretty clear you haven't read the post.
Anyway, so the 911 number idea was just something I desperately cooked up as my mood was really shot on sunday.
Altzan wrote on Mon, 29 November 2010 00:09 | I agree with your statement... was there a specific event that triggered this from you, or just some reflection? I hope it isn't getting you down too much.
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It's really difficult to play a double game as a christian/atheist. No human deserves to live like this; you have to play along? You have to say the "right thing" and watchout for slipups and most of the time, you are just keeping silent while your mind roars to roam free without outside control. It's worse than a bullet to the head imo.
It's very clear the instructions of Jesus, ie, if anyone rejects him, he tells his disciples to shake the dust off their feet and leave. Of course, the twats that are aorund these days have completely forgotten that direct order and instead feel the need to play a power-trip game of forcefully mind controlling everyone around them.
It was the worse day of the year so far. If I can see myself, I absolutely do not deserve to be trapped with these idiots.
anyway, I tried to be positive and did realize that something good came out of it; I realized this long before this happened of course but this incident just solidified it: the importance of secular democracies. Before this I wouldn't have cared much as long as people left me alone. But nobody should have to undergo this no matter what they believe in. Nobody, nomatter what their beliefs, should have their minds intruded and raped and forced this way. Belief-related issues can/should be debated in mutually open forums, meetings,and conferences and what not but not willfully forced upon like is being done to me.
Spoony wrote on Mon, 29 November 2010 04:12 | well said.
the concept of hell, in particular, has got to be confronted head on tbh.
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People say all kinds of things about "god's love" and "his mercy" and so on. Deep within, almost not realizing it, is the concept of hell. One of the most foolproof (but not quiet it seems) insurance against rebellion.
kadoosh wrote on Mon, 29 November 2010 12:26 | If you are over the age of 18 you could seek a restraining order. Along with the option to sue for mental anguish.
There are already options available. Are they easy? no. Are they pleasant? no. However they are there to protect people from abuse of all forms.
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Thanks for that. I looked into it seriously. I didn't know these procedures in detail.
Only problem is that I am immigrant and my papers are still being processed. So these options may not be in my best interests. I will see what is possible though. Anyway, I actually want to be left alone. In fact I am at a point that even if I was locked up, I wouldn't care because it wouldn't matter cos nobody would be able to intrude into my mind atleast. Even if it was a cell, my mind would be trillions of lightyears elsewhere. I just want to be left alone with me and my thoughts without anyone telling me what to think.
It was unfair of me to demand a 911 emergency number I think. Maybe this is only a problem with older immigrants. See, the children of immigrants (I am a fine example) are told by Americans that they have all the freedom they can dream and get a hold of, BUT, the rotten brained backward-thinking corpses of their parents are not so ready to give such freedoms to their children. Sure, there are exceptions but the majority of them are zealots who develop a inferiority complex when they taste the American way of life. Sometimes, it becomes a superiority complex.
So this inferiority complex quickly (as exepected) evolves into a protectionist mentality and these poor insecure shits become silent tyrants...against their own children. And when you mix in religious fanaticism, these people truly become dangerous and their children (those unlucky enough to see thru their bullshit) lead miserable lives.
I just hope, and this is what I was getting at, that one day, that these kinds of mental abuses would gather greater attention and it will sink into the main conscience of the peoples in the future generations. So this way, there will be really be no need of a 911 emergency number because the problem would take care of itself.
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