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Mon, 01 November 2010 19:46

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other than the higher-up admins at clanwars, i can only think of two people besides myself and blkst0rm who agreed with the ban, both of whom said so on MSN rather than the forum.

see, it still had hope

yes, despite the "majority".

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yes, that is the most important part of the equation... by far.

i suppose, since all else is reduced to speculation

except in the quite large number of cases where we know why people won't host a clan league. you'd be surprised how much contempt most clanwars players have for anyone willing to put any time or money into hosting a server or whatever.

and yet even if everyone had perfectly noble reasons for not hosting a clan ladder, the fact that they weren't hosting them would still be the important part of the equation instead of the why of it.

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i assume you mean what if the clean track record players wanted the bug and the cheaters wanted the pointsfix?

yah, i got too used to saying one thing
what then?

then it's possible that might make me reconsider.

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well, if they think it's worth their effort, it reinforces my point that one of them ought to have put some in.

how could a regular player put in effort? in what way do you mean, by assuming Whiskey's role as renadmin?

yes, applying for the renadmin job and doing a diligent job of it would certainly be one way of putting effort it. and yet despite how many times i tried recruiting one, not many people applied and even fewer turned out to be any good.

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i can see you're not going to easily digest the idea that open debate on a particular question is a good thing for its own sake.

i just assume you have some evil intention because you're British
and you seem to enjoy debates in general
some people have fun in winning things, even if their opponents are terrible
are you one of those people? Surprised

i do think free, open debate is a good thing. i also like being proven right, though there is value in being proven wrong (cos you come out of it knowing more than you did before). of course, there are a depressing number of people who can't stand being proven wrong (look at hate, he's still angry and it's been some months)

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		Re: Liquid trying to understand British logic - cleared By: Goztow on Mon, 01 November 2010 00:49
		Re: Liquid trying to understand British logic - cleared By: Herr Surth on Mon, 01 November 2010 06:37
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		Re: Liquid trying to understand British logic - cleared By: liquidv2 on Mon, 01 November 2010 15:52
		Re: Liquid trying to understand British logic - cleared By: Spoony on Mon, 01 November 2010 16:36
		Re: Liquid trying to understand British logic - cleared By: HaTe on Mon, 01 November 2010 17:40
		Re: Liquid trying to understand British logic - cleared By: trooprm02 on Mon, 01 November 2010 21:15
		Re: Liquid trying to understand British logic - cleared By: liquidv2 on Mon, 01 November 2010 21:29
		Re: Liquid trying to understand British logic - cleared By: HaTe on Tue, 02 November 2010 18:21
		Re: Liquid trying to understand British logic - cleared By: trooprm02 on Tue, 02 November 2010 22:01
		Re: Liquid trying to understand British logic - cleared By: liquidv2 on Mon, 01 November 2010 17:44
		Re: Liquid trying to understand British logic - cleared By: Spoony on Mon, 01 November 2010 19:46
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		Re: Liquid trying to understand British logic - cleared By: Rocko on Tue, 02 November 2010 22:29
		Re: Liquid trying to understand British logic - cleared By: SSADMVR on Wed, 03 November 2010 00:38
		Re: Liquid trying to understand British logic - cleared By: Goztow on Wed, 03 November 2010 00:44
		Re: Liquid trying to understand British logic - cleared By: Starbuzzz on Wed, 03 November 2010 06:48
		Re: Liquid trying to understand British logic - cleared By: CarrierII on Wed, 03 November 2010 07:00
		Re: Liquid trying to understand British logic - cleared By: HaTe on Wed, 03 November 2010 10:46
		Re: Liquid trying to understand British logic - cleared By: Rocko on Wed, 03 November 2010 22:06
		Re: Liquid trying to understand British logic - cleared By: sadukar09 on Thu, 04 November 2010 08:07
		Re: Liquid trying to understand British logic - cleared By: trooprm02 on Thu, 04 November 2010 11:48
		Re: Liquid trying to understand British logic - cleared By: HaTe on Thu, 04 November 2010 14:00
		Re: Liquid trying to understand British logic - cleared By: sadukar09 on Wed, 03 November 2010 12:01
		Re: Liquid trying to understand British logic - cleared By: GoTWhisKéY on Wed, 03 November 2010 13:14
		Re: Liquid trying to understand British logic - cleared By: reborn on Thu, 04 November 2010 08:18
		Re: Liquid trying to understand British logic - cleared By: trooprm02 on Thu, 04 November 2010 15:48
		Re: Liquid trying to understand British logic - cleared By: HaTe on Fri, 05 November 2010 12:51
		Re: Liquid trying to understand British logic - cleared By: Hitman on Thu, 04 November 2010 16:15
		Re: Liquid trying to understand British logic - cleared By: InternetThug on Thu, 04 November 2010 23:10
		Re: Liquid trying to understand British logic - cleared By: trooprm02 on Fri, 05 November 2010 20:35
		Re: Liquid trying to understand British logic - cleared By: GoTWhisKéY on Fri, 05 November 2010 06:51
		Re: Liquid trying to understand British logic - cleared By: ELiT3FLyR on Fri, 05 November 2010 09:02
		Re: Liquid trying to understand British logic - cleared By: JohnDoe on Mon, 08 November 2010 12:26
		Re: Liquid trying to understand British logic - cleared By: ELiT3FLyR on Fri, 05 November 2010 09:05
		Re: Liquid trying to understand British logic - cleared By: CarrierII on Fri, 05 November 2010 09:07
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		Re: Liquid trying to understand British logic - cleared By: Spoony on Fri, 05 November 2010 11:04
		Re: Liquid trying to understand British logic - cleared By: GoTWhisKéY on Fri, 05 November 2010 13:05
		Re: Liquid trying to understand British logic - cleared By: Spoony on Fri, 05 November 2010 13:20
		Re: Liquid trying to understand British logic - cleared By: liquidv2 on Fri, 05 November 2010 15:04
		Re: Liquid trying to understand British logic - cleared By: InternetThug on Fri, 05 November 2010 23:08
		Re: Liquid trying to understand British logic - cleared By: GoTWhisKéY on Fri, 05 November 2010 23:49
		Re: Liquid trying to understand British logic - cleared By: trooprm02 on Sat, 06 November 2010 20:53
		Re: Liquid trying to understand British logic - cleared By: Rocko on Sat, 06 November 2010 00:33
		Re: Liquid trying to understand British logic - cleared By: GoTWhisKéY on Sat, 06 November 2010 07:14
		Re: Liquid trying to understand British logic - cleared By: Hitman on Sat, 06 November 2010 07:33
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		Re: Liquid trying to understand British logic - cleared By: Rocko on Mon, 08 November 2010 23:47
		Re: Liquid trying to understand British logic - cleared By: Spoony on Thu, 25 November 2010 20:04
		Re: Liquid trying to understand British logic - cleared By: trooprm02 on Wed, 10 November 2010 13:48
		Re: Liquid trying to understand British logic - cleared By: GoTWhisKéY on Wed, 10 November 2010 16:36
		Re: Liquid trying to understand British logic - cleared By: Spoony on Wed, 10 November 2010 16:42
		Re: Liquid trying to understand British logic - cleared By: Hitman on Mon, 08 November 2010 17:57
		Re: Liquid trying to understand British logic - cleared By: JohnDoe on Tue, 09 November 2010 10:40
		Re: Liquid trying to understand British logic - cleared By: GoTWhisKéY on Tue, 09 November 2010 11:18
		Re: Liquid trying to understand British logic - cleared By: JohnDoe on Tue, 09 November 2010 12:19
		Re: Liquid trying to understand British logic - cleared By: liquidv2 on Tue, 09 November 2010 16:34
		Re: Liquid trying to understand British logic - cleared By: liquidv2 on Wed, 10 November 2010 16:58
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		Re: Liquid trying to understand British logic - cleared By: Rocko on Wed, 10 November 2010 22:40
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		Re: Liquid trying to understand British logic - cleared By: JohnDoe on Thu, 11 November 2010 07:01
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		Re: Liquid trying to understand British logic - cleared By: trooprm02 on Fri, 12 November 2010 08:47
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		Re: Liquid trying to understand British logic - cleared By: JohnDoe on Sun, 28 November 2010 06:44
		Re: Liquid trying to understand British logic - cleared By: GoTWhisKéY on Thu, 02 December 2010 07:40
		Re: Liquid trying to understand British logic - cleared By: Gen_Blacky on Fri, 03 December 2010 18:28

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