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Re: Jus wondering .. [message #428621 is a reply to message #428613] Mon, 17 May 2010 23:31 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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Spoony wrote on Tue, 18 May 2010 02:34

EvilWhiteDragon wrote on Mon, 17 May 2010 18:29

Spoony wrote on Mon, 17 May 2010 18:15

Kimb wrote on Mon, 17 May 2010 07:00

Spoony never said you were stupid, just that if you let 0x90 continue what hes doing with consequence he wont stop, but banning him would show him that "we" care. Not everyone share this view ofc, but that do not make others stupid

let's be clear here. EWD doesn't just think 0x90 shouldn't be banned because he hasn't broken any rules. it wouldn't be too bad if that's all was happening here. it's much worse. EWD, and he's not the only one, thinks 0x90 needs to be protected from being flamed by those of us who don't mind saying the obvious. and not just that - he's quite happy to call for a public "bashing" of a fellow TT member (who's always been honest and always been on the correct side of the anti-cheat fight, which isn't the case for everyone in TT, i can tell you that) to help achieve it.


Let me bring it down to Spoony's level: lollololollo. It's mostly rubbish/ opinion what you write here.

what a sad excuse for a rebuttal.

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look at that situation for what it is. in a considered statement, he's attacked Spoony for the stated purpose that he wants to get into 0x90's good books. and he's tried to justify this by saying there's no point keeping me as an ally because clanwars is dead, so obviously it makes much more sense to take sides with the son of a bitch who killed it.


Yeah, right. I got a feeling you're hinting at something? Why would I need 0x90's good side? If you mean something then SAY IT.

hmmm, are you trying to get me to repeat what you said in private?

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I think he's not too bad as a person, certainly, but I don't agree with him cheating in any way. I must however also note that he also created exploits which can crash servers easily. He apparently tested it on Jelly's server 3 times on one afternoon. I don't agree to that for sure.

This is the worst I've heard you say about him, and it pales compared to what you've said about me. Thanks for reinforcing my point... you've chosen who you want as an ally.

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On the suggestioon that you're being useless, basically it's true. You were asked on the team for clanwars. Somewhere in this topic you said competitive renegade is dead. Then what's your purpose then? It's not like the rest of the TT team doesn't know how to play Renegade, or how public games work.

competitive Renegade is not dead. the second RGCT has just started, in case you missed it... the ingame rules of which are basically a copy-paste of the rules i drew up for clanwars. as for my continued purpose on the team, i don't like to boast but i think my understanding of the game from a tactical perspective is probably better than anyone you can name, which doesn't only restrict itself to clanwars.

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all told, this is one of the most disgraceful things i've ever seen in my involvement with this game, and i must say it came as a surprise that EWD would sink so low.


Opinion, which I obviously do not care about.


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and like i said, he isn't the only prominent person to think things as ludicrous as this. if EWD is right and most of TT agrees with him, then we really, really have a problem.


Yes of course, we really really have a problem because you know, 0x90 will kill us all on RF. If we not ban him there is no telling what horrors he could do.

i didn't mean we'd have a huge problem if we don't ban him from this forum, i mean we'd have a huge problem if most of TT is so keen as you to make a deal with the devil... so keen you'd turn on a trusted colleague to help achieve it.

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TT wants to be able to communicate with 0x90, and letting him be here and letting him see what havoc his cheats cause are probably more convincing to stop than banning him.

that's interesting, you're saying we SHOULD be free to tell us what a cunt he is, how much damage he has done? funny, last time i did that you decided to defend him and call for a "spoony bashing"

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Oh btw, we're on purposely delaying TT so 0x90 can cheat more. That's how evil we are.

do you think you make your argument stronger or weaker by saying things as ridiculous as this?

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You again forget to mention how much time the whole team you apparently don't support even more spends on this project.

don't support TT? if i didn't support TT i wouldn't mind the fact you're crippling its credibility right now.

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You also prove my point on the cheat community being much more grateful than the normal Renegade community.

actually, your point was completely wrong and always has been. the renegade community is often quite grateful to genuinely good projects, and necessarily, very harsh on destructive pieces of shit like your new ally.

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let me finish by repeating what i said several pages ago. if 0x90 wants to be thought of as anything other than a petulant, vacuous piece of shit in this community, then yes, he ought to do something repair the extraordinary amount of damage he has done to this game and we should take every opportunity to remind him what a cunt he is until he does so.

Good luck reminding him on UC. You wanted him gone right? Then you can't remind him. That is your flaw.

no flaw at all. i said he should have been banned years ago, and nobody could bring up the "but then he won't help us!" argument then. and i'm sure if we do flame him you'll be there to stick up for him again, in which case he probably won't realise just how much damage he's done.

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EvilWhiteDragon wrote on Mon, 17 May 2010 04:58

Also he uses information that was trusted to him (being on TT) and uses it to suggest I personally killed CW (well, nearly anyway). That makes his arguments at least just as retarded as the post you quoted.
I dont see where he suggested that YOU killed CW in no way, he said that 0x90 is responsible for it, because server owners used *cheat name removed*


there's no need to refute that, kimb... anyone seriously reading this thread can see EWD was lying through his teeth when he said that. it clearly wasn't a misunderstanding, it was a desperate and dishonest tactic which only an idiot would have thought would work.

Thank you for your cooperation Spoony. You're always calling people that disagree lairs.

no, i call liars liars. you just lied through your teeth about something that is very easy to check and you got caught straight away. don't try to change the subject.

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The point I was making was you you, as you do here in perfect honesty, are trying to make me look bad

you started off trying to make me look bad tough guy, unfortunately for you you showed your true colours in the process.

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while in fact I dare say I did more than 90% of the people here to keep Renegade alive. So thank you, for showing everyone what an asshole you are.

easy tiger, i've done a lot for this game too. never seemed to matter to you, so i don't think you can boast.

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Also, presume that I would quit Renegade and such. What would you think would happen? At best, very little, but more probably BI would die fast, which would probably make StealthEye lose interest. Take a guess who on TT is probably best able to help others define what to code? I guess Saberhawk comes very close, or might be a tad better, but he's not as much around due to college and such.

i don't remember saying you should quit renegade

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Oh and Nikki, if you're addressing me, then I shall explain why I want the topic locked.
1. It has been discussed many times.

i actually think the subject of what a cunt 0x90 is has not been discussed enough.

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Spoony now actively engaging because his precious CW.cc is dead, claiming it's just cheats that killed it. (Has anyone noticed there are just generally less players online? Surely that is only because of cheats [/sarcasm])

Again, why are you lying? Anyone can very easily check what I said a few posts ago. What makes you think you won't get caught again?

You said I'm so useless because clanwars is dead (which shows you can't have read the TT private forum for one thing, but never mind that for now). I said yes, it's dead mostly because of undetectable cheats - the biggest reason for its decline, though not the only reason.

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2. Spoony is being disruptive regarding goals the TT team wants to achieve, and him doing so in public will indeed make the urge for a good TT release only greater, but it does also hamper the team, causing it to work less effective.

that's feeble even by your standards.

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That is the main reason why this thread should've stayed locked. No good can come from it. Spoony will only stop when everyone stops replying or when he got what he wanted, like a little child.

i'll stop when you come to your senses.

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The, to me, most offensive part is that Spoony totally neglected any reasoning I gave him in private on why we can't have this.

you're either really stupid (again) or lying (again). the 'reasoning' you provided in private is the biggest disgrace of all.

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That is a real issue when someone is on a team which should work together.


don't presume to lecture me on teamwork, thanks... not after you publicly call for a "bashing" of a fellow TT colleague just to ease the hurt feelings of 0x90.

^^ that is gonna hang over you for a long time, EWD.

Yes I've chosen who I think is a more trustworthy ally. The one that listens to your arguments. (Hint: it's indeed not you.)
Oh, and on the being useful, I'm sure you used BIATCH more than once. I haven't used CW.cc more than once. On the cheats, CW.cc died because of either mismanagement of just lack of players. Cheaters could be handled with ease, force XWIS, ban on serials, and don't allow known pub cheaters.
That is actually hypocrite, you allowed KNOWN PUBLIC CHEATERS on CW.cc, because they 'only cheated in public servers'. Who supports cheaters.


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