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Re: Hitting a woman [message #419665 is a reply to message #419657]

Thu, 11 February 2010 01:52

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Glock~ wrote on Thu, 11 February 2010 02:34

Some interesting points.

I have a feeling that if I quoted you again, this would turn into a (sorry Spoony) a spoony type drawn out arguement that no one else would read other than us Two (maybe).

Let me shorten my point and summarise how I see it...

Men are taught to respect women and not to hit them. They're told it's wrong to hit a woman, and are conditioned to treat them as "the fairer sex". A man who hits a woman is not really a man at all, he is a bully.
This whole concept is just an example ofjust the way things are done around here. Brainwashing or conditioning if you prefer...

This attitude comes from that old era of women being less than a man, not their equal (that's a lie, it comes from the dawn of time really). Society grew up and realsied that women are indeed our equals, but still clings to the chauvanstic ways of opening a door for a lady, not striking back at a woman, letting the woman go first. These are all patronising and sexist things to do, that mascarade as manors.

Let me give you a straightfoward example...

Two people, a male and female both work as a labourer. Their job is to load up bricks in a hod, and carry them up some ladders.
If the woman cannot carry as much as the man, nor can she carry it as quickly as the man, then does she deserve less pay?
The law says that men and women deserve equal pay for the same job.
If that same Two people get into a fight, and the woman has hit the guy in the face, why is it therefore not acceptable for him to hit her back?
You can't really have One without the other really as I see it.

If you are of the mind that if someone hits you, you should hit them back, or at least defend yourself from further onslaught, then to distinguish against your foe and react different based on their gender is down right sexist. After-all, men and women are equal, no?

If I am honest, in all circumstances I would try to avoid hitting back now, due to my recent experiance and dis-tase for violence period. However, in my mind, I would not condemn another man for defending himself against a woman.

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		Hitting a woman By: GEORGE ZIMMER on Wed, 10 February 2010 01:54
		Re: Hitting a woman By: reborn on Wed, 10 February 2010 03:00
		Re: Hitting a woman By: ChewML on Wed, 10 February 2010 08:57
		Re: Hitting a woman By: slosha on Wed, 10 February 2010 11:31
		Re: Hitting a woman By: reborn on Wed, 10 February 2010 11:56
		Re: Hitting a woman By: CarrierII on Wed, 10 February 2010 11:40
		Re: Hitting a woman By: liquidv2 on Wed, 10 February 2010 20:42
		Re: Hitting a woman By: slosha on Wed, 10 February 2010 12:45
		Re: Hitting a woman By: reborn on Wed, 10 February 2010 14:07
		Re: Hitting a woman By: slosha on Wed, 10 February 2010 14:51
		Re: Hitting a woman By: reborn on Wed, 10 February 2010 23:40
		Re: Hitting a woman By: slosha on Thu, 11 February 2010 00:34
		Re: Hitting a woman By: Tunaman on Thu, 11 February 2010 01:06
		Re: Hitting a woman By: reborn on Thu, 11 February 2010 01:52
		Re: Hitting a woman By: CarrierII on Wed, 10 February 2010 15:17
		Re: Hitting a woman By: IAmFenix on Wed, 10 February 2010 15:50
		Re: Hitting a woman By: HaTe on Wed, 10 February 2010 16:08
		Re: Hitting a woman By: slosha on Wed, 10 February 2010 16:09
		Re: Hitting a woman By: HaTe on Wed, 10 February 2010 16:12
		Re: Hitting a woman By: slosha on Wed, 10 February 2010 17:01
		Re: Hitting a woman By: HaTe on Wed, 10 February 2010 17:11
		Re: Hitting a woman By: DRNG on Wed, 10 February 2010 16:23
		Re: Hitting a woman By: Rocko on Wed, 10 February 2010 16:43
		Re: Hitting a woman By: HaTe on Wed, 10 February 2010 17:00
		Re: Hitting a woman By: DRNG on Wed, 10 February 2010 17:55
		Re: Hitting a woman By: HaTe on Wed, 10 February 2010 18:02
		Re: Hitting a woman By: ChewML on Wed, 10 February 2010 20:50
		Re: Hitting a woman By: slosha on Thu, 11 February 2010 11:49
		Re: Hitting a woman By: HaTe on Thu, 11 February 2010 16:16
		Re: Hitting a woman By: reborn on Fri, 12 February 2010 01:03
		Re: Hitting a woman By: appshot on Thu, 11 February 2010 16:46
		Re: Hitting a woman By: CarrierII on Fri, 12 February 2010 12:33
		Re: Hitting a woman By: liquidv2 on Fri, 12 February 2010 16:34
		Re: Hitting a woman By: Tunaman on Sun, 14 February 2010 01:28
		Re: Hitting a woman By: CarrierII on Sat, 13 February 2010 13:19
		Re: Hitting a woman By: GEORGE ZIMMER on Sat, 13 February 2010 15:02
		Re: Hitting a woman By: CarrierII on Sun, 14 February 2010 13:09
		Re: Hitting a woman By: Tunaman on Sun, 14 February 2010 14:42
		Re: Hitting a woman By: CarrierII on Sun, 14 February 2010 15:15
		Re: Hitting a woman By: HaTe on Sun, 14 February 2010 15:36
		Re: Hitting a woman By: Sean on Thu, 18 February 2010 14:02
		Re: Hitting a woman By: HaTe on Fri, 19 February 2010 10:03
		Re: Hitting a woman By: CarrierII on Sun, 14 February 2010 17:02
		Re: Hitting a woman By: Tunaman on Sun, 14 February 2010 18:16
		Re: Hitting a woman By: CarrierII on Sun, 14 February 2010 19:27
		Re: Hitting a woman By: JohnDoe on Mon, 01 March 2010 17:35
		Re: Hitting a woman By: GEORGE ZIMMER on Tue, 02 March 2010 18:06
		Re: Hitting a woman By: SSADMVR on Tue, 02 March 2010 07:12
		Re: Hitting a woman By: JohnDoe on Tue, 02 March 2010 19:14
		Re: Hitting a woman By: appshot on Tue, 02 March 2010 19:50
		Re: Hitting a woman By: [NE]Fobby[GEN] on Fri, 05 March 2010 17:47
		Re: Hitting a woman By: bmruze on Sun, 07 March 2010 14:56

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