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Re: Hitting a woman [message #419657 is a reply to message #419655] Thu, 11 February 2010 00:34 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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reborn wrote on Thu, 11 February 2010 00:40


So you recognise that the attitude is not right, but that's how you feel anyway?

I meant that is not the way YOU have to feel.

reborn wrote on Thu, 11 February 2010 00:40


I didn't say it was my right, I said why would you act differently if it was a woman.

Because I am in it to build a reputation that I don't abuse my significant other. Like you explained in your story, not everybody would feel that I was acting in self defense, and I would like to avoid that.

reborn wrote on Thu, 11 February 2010 00:40


Think of it like this...
Years ago, women didn't receive the same pay as a male doing the same job. They couldn't get top jobs due to glass ceilings, and they had less rights then males. Men was treated with more respect than females.
This clearly isn't right, women need to be treated equally to men.
You're saying because they are the opposite sex you respect them more. That's the same attitude women had back in those dark ages, and look at the position they was in.
Just as you shouldn't treat a woman with less respect than a man, you should not treat women with more respect either, because it follows that you treat men with less respect.
Armed with you attitude, imagine if your job was an interviewer for an employment agency.

Yes, I recognize that they were not treated as equals in the workforce. However, this isn't about working rights, we're talking about violence here. I do believe in equality in the workforce, and I also think that actions taken to even it out, in-turn shafting the men, is wrong.

reborn wrote on Thu, 11 February 2010 00:40


The same in return, being more respect? Or the same amount they give other women?

I just meant respect in general. Not necessarily more than they treat their same sex because they may have different views that me. My opinions only apply to myself, and I do not expect anyone to view it the exact same way, although I do expect to be treated fairly.

reborn wrote on Thu, 11 February 2010 00:40


Women do not like it when you blame shit on their hormones. You're saying you have respect for women, more so even than other men. However, you disrespect them with this attitude, even though your intentions are clearly good.

But isn't it the truth? Estrogen and testosterone cause a person to act differently? If not, then I take what I said back.

reborn wrote on Thu, 11 February 2010 00:40


I believe you are a sexist really. Only it wont please either side. You say you have more respect for women, therefore you're chauvanistic, but not in the typical sense. You're like the repressed women working as a typist getting her ass slapped by men, and believing they deserve more respect. Women of this attitude where hated by women's libber's, they was self defeating.

Maybe it is sexist, however, it's what I believe, and I wouldn't change it for anything. I see nothing wrong in showing more compassion for the opposite sex. I want to appear as a genuine catch and someone who will treat a woman right, no matter what.

reborn wrote on Thu, 11 February 2010 00:40


That's making a huge assumption, but lets say you're right. You're bending the arguement. In your scenario you just implied the hot headed guy was the guy that believed defending himself against a women is the hot headed one. Defending yourself doesn't mean you're hot headed.

What's to assume? Is a woman really going to want a confrontational man? I don't think that would be very typical. Being short tempered, the man would be more inclined to use violence as intimidation and control, and nobody wants that.

reborn wrote on Thu, 11 February 2010 00:40


You would prefer a women that when confronted with physical violence and was being beat in the face by a man, her reaction would be to stand there and explain her feelings? She should stand there and take the beating while she calmly tries to explain things? That's all well and good if you want a punch bag, but I would prefer my wife to not be hurt.
There is a time for action.

That's not what I meant at all. I am just saying that a woman would certainly not like a violent partner, neither would anyone else.

The road I cruise is a bitch now, baby.

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