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Re: Pointsfix debate - cleared - I plaid guilty :( [message #414781 is a reply to message #414770] Sun, 20 December 2009 20:34 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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HaTe wrote on Mon, 21 December 2009 02:29

EvilWhiteDragon wrote on Sun, 20 December 2009 17:29

HaTe wrote on Mon, 21 December 2009 00:22

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Person 1: I was just stating my opinions, you cannot prove me wrong. Therefore, I am not wrong.


Unless the evidence is clearly proving an opinion wrong, which clearly that is not the case here, or there would be no argument. You may think that your logic is obvious, but you are not alone in that.

But hell, there are still people who think the world is flat, though all of the evidence out there proving it is round. There are still those people who won't change their minds. This is not the case though, as there is not enough evidence it IS a bug to convince many people. If it was a bug, why would this many people object to the change of it? No1/little people objected to all of the other changes by scripts and core patches, why would so many people go through the trouble to argue this case? Even if it was 100% proven a bug, there also would still be those people who object to playing with the pointsfix, just because of the changes. That's how it is when it comes straight down to it, and people won't change their opinions very often at all, just by reading arguments, compared to seeing facts. There are some facts, just not enough for many people, plain and simple.

I think it is fair to say that the pointbug is obviously a bug. One would not multiply x by something only to detract it right afterwards (that is the most factual reason why the pointfix is wrong, besides it being inconsistent).

What you may or may not agree to is whether it improves gameplay or not.

I don't deny that it it's not a bug, but i also believe that gameplay is better with it in. I like anything that will improve gameplay, and in my opinion, the pointsfix will hurt it more than improve it. That's just me though, adjusting to something i don't feel needed is something i will do, but i would also prefer not to do. Call that anti-pointsfix if you want, but in the end, it's just an opinion.

I also believe you said the edit in your post on the top of the page very well. Spoony tends to turn things in to a "for or against" situation very easily, especially when people are undecided, they may either see his logic, and go with him, or see that he is mocking everyone with his posts at the same time, and oppose him.


OK, now were getting somewhere.

You're saying that it hurts gameplay in your oppinion, why? I'm curious what hurts gameplay more than harvsniping Smile


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