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JohnDoe
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-Xv- wrote on Sun, 22 November 2009 18:19 |
JohnDoe wrote on Sun, 22 November 2009 12:19 |
-Xv- wrote on Sun, 22 November 2009 07:52 |
@JohnDoe -
1) Free aim is very useful and every rene "pro" uses it. Wonder why. Just because you can't use it, doesn't mean its useless, such as the point you made of it.
2) The design of the G5 fits most peoples hands very nicely, read some reviews.
3)The surface for laser (note; NOT optical) mice doesn't really matter, its accurate on almost any surface. Useless point.
4)can change sensitivity on the fly, or can set your sensitivity precisely. Can make it very responsive or unresponsive. (400 to 2000 DPI, and everything in between) Then again, most quality mice can do this. Another useless point imo.
5)I don't see what resolution has to do with anything.
6)He is probably using your average, everyday optical mouse. The G5, being extremely cheap nowadays, is a very good buy, even if to just experience the difference a quality mouse offers over an optical. If he doesn't like it, every electronics store that I know, has return policies, even if for just credit.
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1. You have no idea who I am, no elite player uses free aim constantly - but how would you know? Canada only produced 3 pros (Homey, aZ and GotWiskey) and you're neither of them, you're just a random n00b.
2. The design of the G5 is terrible for my needs. I play with a fingertip grip (despite having large hands) and prefer the weight distribution of a symmetrical mouse and a flatter shape. You obviously have no idea what I'm talking about here as these thoughts never even crossed your mind when stupidly buying whatever felt nice in some reviewer's hand.
3. I use the Steelseries I-1 and a laser mouse will NOT track on it. There have been issues throughout the years with laser sensors, which is why the pros in CS and other FPS all use optical mice - take your own advice and read some reviews.
4. No pro will ever change sensitivity on the fly. Every second counts, so having to press another button before firing a weapon is the dumbest thing I can think of. What pros will do is assign custom sensitivity settings for each weapon.
5. Part 5 of you demonstrating how little you know about competitive gaming and mice. What do you think will happen when when the same sensor setting has to cover 1920 pixels instead of 600 pixels? In which case will you cover more of the screen with 1 swipe of the wrist?
6. So you want him to buy every mouse and return it before he finds the right one? More useful advice for this thread I guess...
Reborn, I'm willing to provide you with personalized "pro" advice, but if you don't bother to reply to my list, suit yourself.
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1) I don't use it constantly, especially not in aow, but it definitely has its use, and isn't completely useless, as you claim it to be. I am also better then most people believe me to be. I have beaten "lesser" cw players in 1v1 countless times, just because they felt like talking shit, thinking they are all that. Now, of course I'm not claiming that right now I can just go up to you or whiskey and expect to not lose, but I also haven't played cws in years. ( And since I'm such a n00b I guess it would surprise you that chicnkh8r always came to me to get better. I basically trained him, if you can call it that. lol.)
2)I understand that some people can't stand the feel of ergonomic mice like the G5 or MX518 (usually those with smaller hands or mouse grips that don't involve resting the palm on the mouse), while others just can't come to grips with smaller ones. It's all about how you feel when you hold the mouse.
3) I actually have a steelseries QcK myself. But I have used mice on a variety of surfaces (while on the laptop) and the G5 hasn't failed me yet, be it an uneven wooden shelf or a blanket.
4) I was just saying that changing sensitivity is very easy on the G5, and just the fact that it can be changed on a huge scale makes your point on the resolution very moot imo. You set the sensitivity to whatever feels best for you, on whatever resolution you play in, with whatever weapon you are using, etc..
5) see 4
6) I still think its easier to try a G5 (v2), with its low price tag, and its widely acclaimed reception, then to buy something horribly expensive just to not like it after using it for a week.
In the end it all comes down to personal preference and opinions. Everyone is different. But he did ask us for our thoughts on the matter, now didn't he.
@ reborn
Head over to your local computer/tech store and play around with a few models they have on display. That way you can at least get an idea of what sort of shape, button placement, weight, etc. you prefer, and go from there.
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I never claimed it was entirely useless...it's only useless if you use it exclusively like the guy in that video Reborn is trying to emulate. In case you didn't watch it, it was some guy taking on average 2 clips to pistol engineers walking in straight lines while using extremely predictable movement himself - for some reason the people here think he's god.
The rest of the post just underlines how different preferences in mice can be and why my initial post makes more sense than every other advice. My mouse only has 1800 dpi, which will be a problem to someone playing on a 24" display with high sens.
I remember your nickname tho, at least you're a top tunnel sniper and know a thing or two about aiming (unlike that QQing Chew dipshit). So was Chikn ever busted or suspected of anything? I remember wrs telling me that, but he never seemed like a cheater to me and was good before all of the really slick cheats came out. The only thing odd about his style was that his movement was pretty simple while his accuracy was unlike anyone I've ever encountered.
Chew, we've established that you don't know shit about Renegade or mice, so yes, if someone wants to get better, they shouldn't ask a n00b for advice, but someone with e-credentials.
lol
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