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Fri, 13 November 2009 03:10

Dover
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JohnDoe wrote on Fri, 13 November 2009 00:19

George, I lost all the respect I had for you here. Sad

Bawwww.

JohnDoe wrote on Fri, 13 November 2009 00:19

1. You need both inductive and deductive methods to obtain knowledge. I don't see there being any empirical research about the effects that female gamers have on their environment...stop acting educated, you're not.

You're wrong, I bet I could fill several books with things you don't see.

Deductive reasoning always leads to a correct conclusion (Assuming correct premises). The most famous example is:

Premise 1: All men are mortal.
Premise 2: Socrates is a man.
Conclusion: Socrates is mortal.

So long as premise 1 and premise 2 (And any subsequent premises, if necessary) are correct, the conclusion always will be correct. This is why deductive reasoning is great.

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On the other hand, inductive reasoning MAY lead to a correct conclusion, even when building on a correct premise, but often times doesn't. Two examples our beloved Wikipedia gives are:

Wikipedia

I always hang pictures on nails.
Therefore:
All pictures hang from nails.

and

Wikipedia

Many speeding tickets are given to teenagers.
Therefore:
All teenagers drive fast.

These are obviously false, but using nothing but inductive reasoning there is no problem with these conclusions. This is why inductive reasoning sucks. Inductive reasoning can be helpful, at times, but it doesn't ensure truth.

Logic is deductive, not inductive.

I shouldn't have to tell you any of this. I thought you were a student?

JohnDoe wrote on Fri, 13 November 2009 00:19

2. Who cares? Here's someone looking for a friend (albeit in a very strange way). He doesn't owe anyone an explanation...jeez Sarcasm

And I don't expect an explanation. In fact, he hasn't responded in quite a while. I'm not asking for a explanation so much as trying to get him to think outside his preconceptions.

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		Is Oblivion's request for a male gaming partner unfair? By: Dover on Wed, 11 November 2009 15:36
		Re: Looking for a new gamer By: GEORGE ZIMMER on Wed, 11 November 2009 16:35
		Re: Looking for a new gamer By: JohnDoe on Wed, 11 November 2009 17:09
		Re: Looking for a new gamer By: Dover on Thu, 12 November 2009 00:44
		Re: Looking for a new gamer By: Oblivion165 on Thu, 12 November 2009 01:54
		Re: Looking for a new gamer By: Dover on Thu, 12 November 2009 02:30
		Re: Looking for a new gamer By: GEORGE ZIMMER on Thu, 12 November 2009 03:53
		Re: Looking for a new gamer By: Dover on Thu, 12 November 2009 15:33
		Re: Looking for a new gamer By: GEORGE ZIMMER on Thu, 12 November 2009 15:40
		Re: Looking for a new gamer By: Dover on Thu, 12 November 2009 15:44
		Re: Looking for a new gamer By: GEORGE ZIMMER on Thu, 12 November 2009 15:49
		Re: Looking for a new gamer By: Dover on Thu, 12 November 2009 16:01
		Re: Looking for a new gamer By: GEORGE ZIMMER on Thu, 12 November 2009 16:37
		Re: Looking for a new gamer By: Dover on Thu, 12 November 2009 16:52
		Re: Looking for a new gamer By: GEORGE ZIMMER on Thu, 12 November 2009 16:56
		Re: Looking for a new gamer By: JohnDoe on Fri, 13 November 2009 01:19
		Re: Looking for a new gamer By: Dover on Fri, 13 November 2009 03:10
		Re: Looking for a new gamer By: JohnDoe on Fri, 13 November 2009 07:51
		Re: Looking for a new gamer By: Dover on Fri, 13 November 2009 07:59
		Re: Looking for a new gamer By: JohnDoe on Fri, 13 November 2009 08:11
		Re: Looking for a new gamer By: Dover on Fri, 13 November 2009 08:19
		Re: Looking for a new gamer By: JohnDoe on Fri, 13 November 2009 08:26
		Re: Looking for a new gamer By: Dover on Fri, 13 November 2009 08:49
		Re: Looking for a new gamer By: SSADMVR on Fri, 13 November 2009 09:02
		Re: Looking for a new gamer By: Dover on Fri, 13 November 2009 09:04
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		Re: Looking for a new gamer By: Dover on Fri, 13 November 2009 09:10
		Re: Looking for a new gamer By: GEORGE ZIMMER on Fri, 13 November 2009 08:48
		Re: Looking for a new gamer By: Dover on Fri, 13 November 2009 08:56
		Re: Looking for a new gamer By: GEORGE ZIMMER on Fri, 13 November 2009 09:04
		Re: Looking for a new gamer By: Dover on Fri, 13 November 2009 09:08
		Re: Looking for a new gamer By: GEORGE ZIMMER on Fri, 13 November 2009 09:20
		Re: Looking for a new gamer By: Dover on Fri, 13 November 2009 09:28
		Re: Looking for a new gamer By: GEORGE ZIMMER on Fri, 13 November 2009 09:50
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		Re: Looking for a new gamer By: Dover on Fri, 13 November 2009 10:31
		Re: Looking for a new gamer By: GEORGE ZIMMER on Fri, 13 November 2009 11:13
		Re: Looking for a new gamer By: Dover on Fri, 13 November 2009 11:24
		Re: Looking for a new gamer By: GEORGE ZIMMER on Fri, 13 November 2009 11:49
		Re: Looking for a new gamer By: Dover on Fri, 13 November 2009 17:01
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		Re: Looking for a new gamer By: JohnDoe on Sat, 14 November 2009 05:04
		Re: Looking for a new gamer By: GEORGE ZIMMER on Sat, 14 November 2009 07:11
		Re: Looking for a new gamer By: SSADMVR on Fri, 13 November 2009 09:07
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		Re: Looking for a new gamer By: Dover on Fri, 13 November 2009 09:13
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		Re: Looking for a new gamer By: JohnDoe on Fri, 13 November 2009 09:33
		Re: Looking for a new gamer By: Dover on Fri, 13 November 2009 09:35
		Re: Looking for a new gamer By: JohnDoe on Fri, 13 November 2009 09:40
		Re: Looking for a new gamer By: Dover on Fri, 13 November 2009 09:43
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		Re: Looking for a new gamer By: Dover on Fri, 13 November 2009 09:46
		Re: Looking for a new gamer By: JohnDoe on Fri, 13 November 2009 10:36
		Re: Looking for a new gamer By: Dover on Fri, 13 November 2009 10:40
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		Re: Looking for a new gamer By: Dover on Fri, 13 November 2009 10:44
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		Re: Looking for a new gamer By: Dover on Fri, 13 November 2009 10:52
		Re: Is Oblivion's request for a male gaming partner unfair? By: CarrierII on Fri, 13 November 2009 11:04
		Re: Is Oblivion's request for a male gaming partner unfair? By: Dover on Fri, 13 November 2009 11:08
		Re: Is Oblivion's request for a male gaming partner unfair? By: CarrierII on Fri, 13 November 2009 11:10
		Re: Is Oblivion's request for a male gaming partner unfair? By: nikki6ixx on Fri, 13 November 2009 11:11
		Re: Is Oblivion's request for a male gaming partner unfair? By: Dover on Fri, 13 November 2009 11:13
		Re: Is Oblivion's request for a male gaming partner unfair? By: JohnDoe on Fri, 13 November 2009 12:15
		Re: Is Oblivion's request for a male gaming partner unfair? By: liquidv2 on Sat, 14 November 2009 00:51
		Re: Is Oblivion's request for a male gaming partner unfair? By: CarrierII on Fri, 13 November 2009 11:24
		Re: Is Oblivion's request for a male gaming partner unfair? By: Dover on Fri, 13 November 2009 11:27
		Re: Is Oblivion's request for a male gaming partner unfair? By: CarrierII on Fri, 13 November 2009 11:31
		Re: Is Oblivion's request for a male gaming partner unfair? By: Dover on Fri, 13 November 2009 11:40
		Re: Is Oblivion's request for a male gaming partner unfair? By: CarrierII on Fri, 13 November 2009 12:16
		Re: Is Oblivion's request for a male gaming partner unfair? By: nikki6ixx on Fri, 13 November 2009 14:32
		Re: Is Oblivion's request for a male gaming partner unfair? By: CarrierII on Fri, 13 November 2009 16:12
		Re: Is Oblivion's request for a male gaming partner unfair? By: nikki6ixx on Fri, 13 November 2009 17:05
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		Re: Is Oblivion's request for a male gaming partner unfair? By: Goztow on Sat, 14 November 2009 04:07
		Re: Is Oblivion's request for a male gaming partner unfair? By: Herr Surth on Sat, 14 November 2009 04:09
		Re: Is Oblivion's request for a male gaming partner unfair? By: Herr Surth on Sat, 14 November 2009 05:17
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		Re: Is Oblivion's request for a male gaming partner unfair? By: Dover on Mon, 16 November 2009 19:30
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		Re: Is Oblivion's request for a male gaming partner unfair? By: liquidv2 on Tue, 17 November 2009 21:04
		Re: Is Oblivion's request for a male gaming partner unfair? By: RadioactiveHell on Tue, 17 November 2009 21:08
		Re: Is Oblivion's request for a male gaming partner unfair? By: Dover on Tue, 17 November 2009 23:34
		Re: Is Oblivion's request for a male gaming partner unfair? By: Crimson on Thu, 19 November 2009 10:08
		Re: Is Oblivion's request for a male gaming partner unfair? By: GEORGE ZIMMER on Thu, 19 November 2009 10:57
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		Re: Is Oblivion's request for a male gaming partner unfair? By: nikki6ixx on Wed, 18 November 2009 00:32
		Re: Is Oblivion's request for a male gaming partner unfair? By: JohnDoe on Wed, 18 November 2009 01:30
		Re: Is Oblivion's request for a male gaming partner unfair? By: Dover on Wed, 18 November 2009 01:45
		Re: Is Oblivion's request for a male gaming partner unfair? By: JohnDoe on Wed, 18 November 2009 02:46
		Re: Is Oblivion's request for a male gaming partner unfair? By: Dover on Wed, 18 November 2009 23:27
		Re: Is Oblivion's request for a male gaming partner unfair? By: Herr Surth on Wed, 18 November 2009 02:57
		Re: Is Oblivion's request for a male gaming partner unfair? By: JohnDoe on Thu, 19 November 2009 02:56
		Re: Is Oblivion's request for a male gaming partner unfair? By: Dover on Thu, 19 November 2009 03:20
		Re: Is Oblivion's request for a male gaming partner unfair? By: JohnDoe on Thu, 19 November 2009 05:11
		Re: Is Oblivion's request for a male gaming partner unfair? By: Dover on Thu, 19 November 2009 05:55
		Re: Is Oblivion's request for a male gaming partner unfair? By: JohnDoe on Thu, 19 November 2009 09:20
		Re: Is Oblivion's request for a male gaming partner unfair? By: Dover on Thu, 19 November 2009 17:49
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		Re: Is Oblivion's request for a male gaming partner unfair? By: BLÃ»Îµl4Î²ÃªL on Fri, 20 November 2009 06:56
		Re: Is Oblivion's request for a male gaming partner unfair? By: JohnDoe on Fri, 20 November 2009 08:24
		Re: Is Oblivion's request for a male gaming partner unfair? By: Dover on Fri, 20 November 2009 10:29
		Re: Is Oblivion's request for a male gaming partner unfair? By: JohnDoe on Fri, 20 November 2009 11:27
		Re: Is Oblivion's request for a male gaming partner unfair? By: GEORGE ZIMMER on Fri, 20 November 2009 11:50
		Re: Is Oblivion's request for a male gaming partner unfair? By: JohnDoe on Fri, 20 November 2009 12:47
		Re: Is Oblivion's request for a male gaming partner unfair? By: Dover on Fri, 20 November 2009 13:10
		Re: Is Oblivion's request for a male gaming partner unfair? By: Altzan on Fri, 20 November 2009 14:23
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		Re: Is Oblivion's request for a male gaming partner unfair? By: GEORGE ZIMMER on Fri, 20 November 2009 15:04
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