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Re: The Pointsfix and the Game Listings [message #406314 is a reply to message #406307] Fri, 09 October 2009 07:47 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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Blue169 wrote

Spoony you talk about Jelly being "undeserving" of the nicknames who do you honestly think actually deserves them? You? Crimson?

TT.

Again, compare TT to Jelly.

People criticise TT about the pointsfix; TT goes to incredible lengths to debate the subject, suggests all sorts of compromises, and eventually just gives the community everything they want.

People criticise Jelly about their monopoly on the a00 names: everyone from jelly says "fuck off, there's nothing you can do about it, we don't have to explain ourselves to you"

^^ that really tells you all you need to know.
one group has EA and XWIS's blessing to manage renegade affairs, and has already proven its approachability, reasonableness, willingness to compromise, and willingness to accommodate differing opinions within the community. the other group seized the power and continually proves they don't consider themselves answerable to anybody, and reacts violently to any criticism at all.

Blue169 wrote

Seriously though, why should it matter that Jelly has a big playerbase isn't that the point of hosting a server...? To actually get players joining it?

if you want to refute my statements, go ahead. but please only refute things i've actually said, eh?

Blue169 wrote

Now you come to the Jelly forums basically demonizing us all and then bitch about how we don't agree with you is there something about with that sentence?

Yes, there is something wrong with that sentence; it's completely upside down. I didn't demonise anybody; the jelly community demonised me simply for expressing an opinion about the chokehold they have on the game listings. I've been treated appallingly by the Jelly community long before now, for nothing worse than having a different opinion.

Blue169 wrote

Chances are by now you are thinking to yourself, "Who the fuck is this n00b? Why is he telling me off? He doesn't know me!"

No, but I am thinking you don't know the situation.

Blue169 wrote

If It's consolation I've read many of your posts, topics or whatever on both forums and I just see that you live for trying to win Arguments and you always attempt to dig up dirt on people at an attempt to Invalidate what they think.

Then you haven't read them very carefully. Go look at Jelly; the community is absolutely full of people who just live to flame the hell out of me, despite the fact they have absolutely nothing to be upset at me for. I, on the other hand, just debate the actual issues relating to Renegade.

Blue169 wrote

Anyways, you're certainly right Jelly has a monopoly there is no denying that but they run a good server and deserve any and all of the players that join their servers and help support it.

You can talk all you like about how great the Jelly servers are; it simply doesn't answer the question.

Blue169 wrote

But what really pisses me off is that after all this, you still try to degrade all the work they have done just because of a few lousy nicknames.

Then what's your opinion of the Jelly community continually lying about my track record at Clanwars to try to make me look bad, and the rest of the jelly community letting them get away with it (and demonising me for successfully defending myself?) The only reason they tried doing that is because they desperately wanted to argue against the pointsfix on the ladder and this is the best they could do. What's your two cents on that?


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