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Re: The Pointsfix and the Game Listings [message #405644 is a reply to message #405640] Tue, 06 October 2009 11:18 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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Spoony wrote on Tue, 06 October 2009 20:01

I've done nothing wrong to upset any of you.


Except for starting a crusade, nope.

Spoony wrote on Tue, 06 October 2009 20:01

Legitimate criticism

Yes

Spoony wrote on Tue, 06 October 2009 20:01

of your undeserved monopoly on Renegade's game listings doesn't count


No. Please elaborate where this is undeserved. I have skipped reading most of this thread, but I am curious how you will explain to me how Jelly would not be allowed to have the hostnames, because Jelly was the first to register it!

Spoony wrote on Tue, 06 October 2009 20:01

if you can criticise TT out of fear that we're imposing the pointsfix on you (which isn't true, of course), you can't say I can't criticise your chokehold on the game listings.


Jelly and it's community appears to be against the pointfix. Sure, you can criticise Jelly's a00 nicknames, but you're throwing in false assumptions, like where it is undeserved and all.

Spoony wrote on Tue, 06 October 2009 20:01

I don't think many people still thought Jelly community was qualified to manage the a00 listings


Since when did Jelly start MANAGING the a00 listings? I thoguth XWIS was managing the server listings?

Spoony wrote on Tue, 06 October 2009 20:01

but if anybody still does, they can just look at this thread, and compare Jelly's reaction to criticism to the way TT reacted to criticism of the pointsfix (i.e. going to incredible lengths to debate the subject, suggesting lots and lots of compromises all of which were violently rejected, then simply agreeing to give the anti-pointsfix crowd everything they asked for).


This is like comparing a cow and a horse. Want me to explain?

- Jelly has the right to own that nickname simply because he was the first to register it. It is his nickname and it will stay that way, unless Jelly (The Owner) decides to give it away.

See it like a domain name, if I registered a000000.com, and Someone would be like LUL I WANT IT BCUZ U UNFAIR, what would give him the right to claim it? I was the first to register it, so it's my right to keep it as I see fit.

- The Pointfix on the other hand is not a domain name and not a first come first serve thing. It's simply a mod the server owners can choose to run. Just like a commander plugin, a veteran plugin, donate, ctf, etc, etc. It changes gameplay.

Clearly, the pointsfix is right. There, I've said it. The arguments for it make sense. Though, isn't it the right of the server owners to do with it what they want? My co-op server was running a plugin where you could be buying credits in exchange for points. You can alter points. Would you disallow those aswell? Isn't it up to the server owner how they run their server and WHAT they run at their server? Isn't it up to the player to choose what server they like, what gamemode they like, and what server they play in? You can choose yourself to stop joining the server without the pointfix.

Spoony wrote on Tue, 06 October 2009 20:01

I think that if we showed EA, and Olaf, this thread and the Jelly admins' replies to it, it would be pretty easy to get their support. I think my original post did a pretty good job of making the case, but Jelly's replies pretty much close it.


I think you should get off your high horse. Maybe half of the community is pro-pointfix and half is against it. (Just pulling statistics out of my ass, don't get me wrong!) Doesn't EA wish to see FULL community support? So.. giving them the option to put it on/off would satisfy everyone.. right? Everyone can choose what they like, case closed.


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nikki6ixx wrote on Fri, 08 May 2009 19:47

Every so often, I get this positive feeling that humanity can somehow, possibly attain pure awesomeness, and enlightenment, and that there is light at the end of the road for us all. However, I only need to go to the latest HUD thread at RenForums to remind me of how dumb I was for thinking such stupid things.
 
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