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Sun, 04 October 2009 02:09

Homey
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liquidv2 wrote on Thu, 01 October 2009 18:15

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if someone's first instinct upon their base being threatened by a tank is to shoot the tank without damaging it, they're NOT a good player. i would go so far as to call them a dumbass. there is always something HELPFUL you can be doing. always. and a good player will do that instead.

the only argument against this is that in doing no damage to the vehicle you are still increasing your points and credits more quickly than you otherwise could and will probably be able to buy a better unit with which to defend the base or aid your team; with the pointmod in place it is no longer an option, but as long as it's there it will always be used as one

i think gaining one credit per second is too high, but half a credit would actually make a noticeable difference; on the atomix server you gain 3 credits per second and players can still buy infantry and vehicles with the pointmod in place, and i seem to end up having more in there than i do in a server with the original points in place even if i'm tearing shit up

nice summary, it says what needs to be said Big Ups

This has always been my problem with pointsfix, even in tank fighting you don't gain points fast enough. Fair enough right, yes it makes the game more fair yada yada. Point being, as it stands in my opinion you gain credits too slow with pointsfix on, regardless of what you're doing (exception shooting/repairing buildings). 3 creds per second would be far too much for sure.

Perhaps the way to balance pointsfix for people who don't prefer it (myself included) would be to test an actual ratio for credits per second.

I've realized that Spoony is right about long games/joining late and if your ref is dead, tough shit. But so long as it's alive I think a bit more than 2/sec should be awarded to offset the decreased points you get overall.

Maybe it's 2.5? Maybe 2.25? So you'd get 2,2,2,3. I don't know what the actual number is but I'd be willing to test it.

What do you think Spoomer?

Edit: The unkillable silo...not a bad idea for an option, or even a killable silo. Perhaps it could have the extra credits of .25 or .5 ...either way I've played in servers with 3 creds/sec and it's too easy to rack up tons of credits so quick, even minimized....

Homey

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		Ideas to help newcomers/people joining a serv mid-game By: GEORGE ZIMMER on Wed, 30 September 2009 21:36
		Re: Ideas to help newcomers/people joining a serv mid-game By: liquidv2 on Wed, 30 September 2009 21:52
		Re: Ideas to help newcomers/people joining a serv mid-game By: Goztow on Wed, 30 September 2009 23:59
		Re: Ideas to help newcomers/people joining a serv mid-game By: Spoony on Thu, 01 October 2009 02:09
		Re: Ideas to help newcomers/people joining a serv mid-game By: Wiener on Thu, 01 October 2009 02:37
		Re: Ideas to help newcomers/people joining a serv mid-game By: RTsa on Thu, 01 October 2009 08:58
		Re: Ideas to help newcomers/people joining a serv mid-game By: Starbuzzz on Thu, 01 October 2009 09:48
		Re: Ideas to help newcomers/people joining a serv mid-game By: Omar007 on Thu, 01 October 2009 14:04
		Re: Ideas to help newcomers/people joining a serv mid-game By: liquidv2 on Thu, 01 October 2009 15:15
		Re: Ideas to help newcomers/people joining a serv mid-game By: EvilWhiteDragon on Fri, 02 October 2009 00:13
		Re: Ideas to help newcomers/people joining a serv mid-game By: Homey on Sun, 04 October 2009 02:09
		Re: Ideas to help newcomers/people joining a serv mid-game By: EvilWhiteDragon on Sun, 04 October 2009 03:10
		Re: Ideas to help newcomers/people joining a serv mid-game By: RTsa on Thu, 01 October 2009 23:52
		Re: Ideas to help newcomers/people joining a serv mid-game By: CarrierII on Sat, 03 October 2009 09:21
		Re: Ideas to help newcomers/people joining a serv mid-game By: EvilWhiteDragon on Sat, 03 October 2009 13:26
		Re: Ideas to help newcomers/people joining a serv mid-game By: Homey on Sun, 04 October 2009 02:17
		Re: Ideas to help newcomers/people joining a serv mid-game By: EvilWhiteDragon on Sun, 04 October 2009 03:08
		Re: Ideas to help newcomers/people joining a serv mid-game By: Homey on Sun, 04 October 2009 04:36
		Re: Ideas to help newcomers/people joining a serv mid-game By: CarrierII on Sun, 04 October 2009 05:11
		Re: Ideas to help newcomers/people joining a serv mid-game By: EvilWhiteDragon on Sun, 04 October 2009 06:37
		Re: Ideas to help newcomers/people joining a serv mid-game By: Spoony on Sun, 04 October 2009 06:47
		Re: Ideas to help newcomers/people joining a serv mid-game By: ELiT3FLyR on Sun, 04 October 2009 07:17
		Re: Ideas to help newcomers/people joining a serv mid-game By: Spoony on Sun, 04 October 2009 07:35
		Re: Ideas to help newcomers/people joining a serv mid-game By: EvilWhiteDragon on Sun, 04 October 2009 09:22
		Re: Ideas to help newcomers/people joining a serv mid-game By: CarrierII on Sun, 04 October 2009 07:29
		Re: Ideas to help newcomers/people joining a serv mid-game By: liquidv2 on Sun, 04 October 2009 10:15
		Re: Ideas to help newcomers/people joining a serv mid-game By: Homey on Sun, 04 October 2009 11:15
		Re: Ideas to help newcomers/people joining a serv mid-game By: ELiT3FLyR on Sun, 04 October 2009 11:20
		Re: Ideas to help newcomers/people joining a serv mid-game By: ELiT3FLyR on Sun, 04 October 2009 11:27
		Re: Ideas to help newcomers/people joining a serv mid-game By: EvilWhiteDragon on Sun, 04 October 2009 13:04
		Re: Ideas to help newcomers/people joining a serv mid-game By: Homey on Sun, 04 October 2009 11:31
		Re: Ideas to help newcomers/people joining a serv mid-game By: liquidv2 on Sun, 04 October 2009 11:33
		Re: Ideas to help newcomers/people joining a serv mid-game By: Dover on Sun, 04 October 2009 12:15
		Re: Ideas to help newcomers/people joining a serv mid-game By: Spoony on Sun, 04 October 2009 14:16
		Re: Ideas to help newcomers/people joining a serv mid-game By: Homey on Sun, 04 October 2009 12:45
		Re: Ideas to help newcomers/people joining a serv mid-game By: ELiT3FLyR on Sun, 04 October 2009 13:14
		Re: Ideas to help newcomers/people joining a serv mid-game By: Homey on Sun, 04 October 2009 16:05
		Re: Ideas to help newcomers/people joining a serv mid-game By: liquidv2 on Sun, 04 October 2009 16:24
		Re: Ideas to help newcomers/people joining a serv mid-game By: Spoony on Sun, 04 October 2009 16:32
		Re: Ideas to help newcomers/people joining a serv mid-game By: liquidv2 on Sun, 04 October 2009 16:38
		Re: Ideas to help newcomers/people joining a serv mid-game By: Dover on Mon, 05 October 2009 01:46
		Re: Ideas to help newcomers/people joining a serv mid-game By: liquidv2 on Sun, 04 October 2009 16:34
		Re: Ideas to help newcomers/people joining a serv mid-game By: Spoony on Sun, 04 October 2009 16:43
		Re: Ideas to help newcomers/people joining a serv mid-game By: liquidv2 on Sun, 04 October 2009 17:22
		Re: Ideas to help newcomers/people joining a serv mid-game By: Spoony on Sun, 04 October 2009 17:39
		Re: Ideas to help newcomers/people joining a serv mid-game By: liquidv2 on Sun, 04 October 2009 17:54
		Re: Ideas to help newcomers/people joining a serv mid-game By: Goztow on Sun, 04 October 2009 23:33
		Re: Ideas to help newcomers/people joining a serv mid-game By: Goztow on Mon, 05 October 2009 01:50
		Re: Ideas to help newcomers/people joining a serv mid-game By: EvilWhiteDragon on Mon, 05 October 2009 02:11
		Re: Ideas to help newcomers/people joining a serv mid-game By: liquidv2 on Mon, 05 October 2009 04:29
		Re: Ideas to help newcomers/people joining a serv mid-game By: EvilWhiteDragon on Mon, 05 October 2009 04:48
		Re: Ideas to help newcomers/people joining a serv mid-game By: GEORGE ZIMMER on Mon, 05 October 2009 04:23
		Re: Ideas to help newcomers/people joining a serv mid-game By: liquidv2 on Mon, 05 October 2009 04:38
		Re: Ideas to help newcomers/people joining a serv mid-game By: Spoony on Mon, 05 October 2009 05:44
		Re: Ideas to help newcomers/people joining a serv mid-game By: ELiT3FLyR on Mon, 05 October 2009 08:08
		Re: Ideas to help newcomers/people joining a serv mid-game By: EvilWhiteDragon on Mon, 05 October 2009 08:30
		Re: Ideas to help newcomers/people joining a serv mid-game By: Spoony on Mon, 05 October 2009 09:03
		Re: Ideas to help newcomers/people joining a serv mid-game By: CarrierII on Mon, 05 October 2009 08:33
		Re: Ideas to help newcomers/people joining a serv mid-game By: ELiT3FLyR on Mon, 05 October 2009 08:50
		Re: Ideas to help newcomers/people joining a serv mid-game By: EvilWhiteDragon on Mon, 05 October 2009 09:19
		Re: Ideas to help newcomers/people joining a serv mid-game By: Spoony on Mon, 05 October 2009 09:25
		Re: Ideas to help newcomers/people joining a serv mid-game By: ELiT3FLyR on Mon, 05 October 2009 09:29
		Re: Ideas to help newcomers/people joining a serv mid-game By: ELiT3FLyR on Mon, 05 October 2009 09:31
		Re: Ideas to help newcomers/people joining a serv mid-game By: ELiT3FLyR on Mon, 05 October 2009 09:38
		Re: Ideas to help newcomers/people joining a serv mid-game By: Ghostshaw on Mon, 05 October 2009 09:43
		Re: Ideas to help newcomers/people joining a serv mid-game By: Spoony on Mon, 05 October 2009 11:20
		Re: Ideas to help newcomers/people joining a serv mid-game By: ELiT3FLyR on Mon, 05 October 2009 13:53
		Re: Ideas to help newcomers/people joining a serv mid-game By: Dover on Mon, 05 October 2009 20:17
		Re: Ideas to help newcomers/people joining a serv mid-game By: GEORGE ZIMMER on Mon, 05 October 2009 20:34
		Re: Ideas to help newcomers/people joining a serv mid-game By: EvilWhiteDragon on Mon, 05 October 2009 23:57
		Re: Ideas to help newcomers/people joining a serv mid-game By: ELiT3FLyR on Mon, 05 October 2009 13:55
		Re: Ideas to help newcomers/people joining a serv mid-game By: GEORGE ZIMMER on Mon, 05 October 2009 15:24
		Re: Ideas to help newcomers/people joining a serv mid-game By: Iran on Mon, 05 October 2009 15:33
		Re: Ideas to help newcomers/people joining a serv mid-game By: Goztow on Tue, 06 October 2009 00:27
		Re: Ideas to help newcomers/people joining a serv mid-game By: Goztow on Wed, 07 October 2009 01:18

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