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Re: The Pointsfix, Tildeth's poll, Homey, and the Jelly community [message #405074 is a reply to message #405029] Fri, 02 October 2009 19:30 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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kadoosh wrote on Fri, 02 October 2009 16:33

Here's something to think about spoony. I'm not against you either so don't take this wrong.

He doesn't like the pointfix/patch. Apparently he goes out of the way to not use it. You give him 2 options. Either it's mandatory or it's an option to be turned on. What would you pick? As you see, "leave it out it sucks" isn't an option, so for his preferences he choses make it an option witch he then has to support since it's the only option that goes toward his personal gain. So it's not that he wants the server owners to have the choice. It's the only option given that has his goal involved. So in his opinion it would be the lesser of the 2 evils.

Hope this translation of someone hopelessly defending his anti poinfix stance to english makes sense.

there's no defending him here.

if he wants the pointsfix to simply not exist and for communities to NOT be able to use it, let him be uncharacteristically honest and just say so. he showed a rare flash of honesty when he said he wanted the TT ladder to be less fair, shame that didn't last.

if he wants the pointsfix utterly destroyed, well, that's his opinion. but instead he says: i support the idea of each community choosing whether to use it. trouble is he's lying through his teeth when he says this. he is fundamentally opposed to the idea.

Homey wrote

Spoony, you and tildeth we're talking in a topic that didn't pertain to anything relevant to pointsfix. I don't know why you two posted in there randomly, and I don't care.

spoony wrote

homey tried to justify this coverup by saying it was all off topic. i must admit, i always respected homey, but this is indefensible.
this poll is INCREDIBLY relevant to the pointsfix debate, as far as the jelly community goes. why? because "most of us don't like the pointsfix" is the only argument they've presented which hadn't been conclusively debunked.

excuse me, but if "most of us don't like the pointsfix" is "random" and "not relevant to the pointsfix", then you have an awful lot more deleting to do.

Homey wrote

I just deleted the posts by both of you and you think I'm covering something up. Yes, I'm covering up something that's posted publicly here on renforums.

actually, i didn't post it here to begin with. i only did because you went on a delete rampage, lol. and it's very very obvious why - because tildeth's poll is incredibly embarrassing and threatening to the anti-pointsfix crowd.

I don't even read your posts, it's pretty clear what they are and I don't care to waste 10 minutes of my life reading more of your junk.

Homey wrote

And Spoony, I wasn't around or don't remember anything about clear cheating. The last person I remember was JR or one of his buddies using BH against me. After that I didn't really play much in the way of CW's or didn't pay much attention to shit going on. I may have been told at one point or read something, but I don't remember.

you dodge my question. i didn't ask you if you remembered whether clear cheated. quite a few people don't remember it, and a few who do remember it found it politically convenient not to admit it (simpee being the best example).

why the conspicuous silence when he made the huge list of bullshit accusations against me? about a dozen ridiculous lies, all of them so stupid that it's impossible to even take them seriously, even before they were disproven, which they were. and why not a word of condemnation after he's caught lying about every single thing he said?

is running the league honestly and fairly for longer than anyone else suddenly rendered worthless just because i like the pointsfix? it certainly seems that way.

raven wrote

No one at Jelly cares what happened at cw.cc or what clearsh0t has to say on the issue.. why should ANYONE at Jelly condemn him if they don't care?

i don't expect you to care about what happened at clanwars. what i do find surprising, however, is your apparent indifference to one of your moderators lying to everybody AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN to try to make me look bad, just because that's the only way he can try to sabotage the TT ladder. we don't all value honesty, eh... these "debates" prove only one thing: you can get away with the most extraordinary bullshit just so long as you're vocal in your opposition to the pointsfix. i can scarcely imagine the outrage if *i* did what clearshot just did.

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