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Re: Points fix debate number 5.598 [message #404900 is a reply to message #404898] Thu, 01 October 2009 22:30 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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Tildeth wrote on Thu, 01 October 2009 23:54

What are you chatting about now? Getting angry because you know a poll will reveal the truth about what people think about this point"fix"?

No, this seems like yet another example of you completely failing to read what I'm saying, just like the thread on jelly.

Tildeth wrote on Thu, 01 October 2009 23:54

It wasn't me who rejected the pointfix in clanwars.cc, it was the LEAGUE. Didn't you notice the C4U servers completely die when it was used there?

here we are.

an individual league, clanwars.cc chose to use the pointsfix. i was the admin. this means i get to choose this. what did people do? totally disregarded the admin's choice. character assassination. endlessly lied about the situation to influence opinion, and most crucially, they LIED to the server hosts to get it removed. they even lied about the situation much later on other forums about whether it was even implemented at all.

now, who do you support in this situation? you've made it clear already, but i'll spell out the situation so everyone sees it for what it is.
do you support -a- the rightfully appointed renadmin+league owner, who decided that the pointsfix was the right thing for the league?
or -b- do you support the DESPICABLE tactics the anti-pointsfix crowd used at clanwars, completely subverting the admin's wishes, and continually lying to get what they wanted?

it's clearly -b- in your case, because you've tried to use the appalling situation at clanwars as an argument AGAINST the pointsfix - which shows you have no respect for honesty, or the authority of the only person who could ever be bothered hosting a clan league for pricks like you, or the way any particular community chooses to make its decisions.

if you want a pointsbug league, what's ever stopped you hosting one? YOU, tildeth? don't dodge this question, answer it: why didn't YOU host a clan league with the pointsbug? i did, even though i like the pointsfix better. i'm not the one with any explaining to do here.

so there you have it. for all i care, n00bstories can make their choice, pointsfix or not. i don't care what they choose, i don't care how they choose it - whether by a vote or by admin discussion or by crimson flipping a coin. it's not my business. jelly can make their choice. black-cell can make their choice. etc etc etc. i support these individual choices.

YOU DO NOT! you proved this when you take the side of the people who used such disgusting tactics at clanwars, instead of me. you continue to prove this by holding to this position.

Tildeth wrote on Thu, 01 October 2009 23:54

Didn't you notice the same thing at Jelly (as tellsson pointed out earlier)?

yes, but I didn't notice it at n00bstories. clearly the pointsfix isn't the only factor... perhaps jelly moderators and admins treating players like absolute shit for no reason might have something to do with it too? just look at the way they treat me, despite the fact i've done absolutely nothing wrong.

Tildeth wrote on Thu, 01 October 2009 23:54

Don't believe me? Make the poll then big guy, unless you're completely horrified of seeing the results staggering against you...Which I believe to be the case after your reply to my previous post.

uh, what poll? whether there should be a choice? i've said ad nauseum that I support the idea that there should be, even if you don't. or simply a head count of how many people don't like the pointsfix? i don't care, we're giving people a choice to host servers without it. there's no problem in my eyes, unless jelly continues to keep the current stranglehold on the game listings so no new servers can possibly flourish.

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