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Re: Splitting the record - about the virtual lock [message #400581 is a reply to message #400469]

Sat, 29 August 2009 07:56

spotelmo
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darkdragon wrote on Fri, 28 August 2009 18:31

spotelmo wrote on Fri, 28 August 2009 14:07

i'd appreciate you sending me a link to what you'd like me to read about dana corporation. from a quick browsing, it seems their a parts supplier that went into bankruptcy and reorganized things including retirement plans.

Well most of what they did isn't exactly documented anywhere where I can find anyway. Mainly what they did was cut their dam pensions and take away their health insurance. here's the thing that pisses me off the most. They moved all their assets overseas before they went bankrupt went bankrupt brought the shit back and went on operating like nothing ever happened.

how do I know this my grandpa worked their my Father worked there my uncle worked their and so on. I would have more then likely have gotten a job there if it wasn't for my personal problems and the shit they pulled afew years ago.

Personally I don't prescribe to the class war that you seem to think I do I want to abandon the hole concept of classes and have everyone be = like our country was founded to be.

Dover I suggest you read our constitution and figure out what our government is allowed to do and what they aren't it doesn't give us rights it limits the governments power.

if you had proof of any of that, i'm sure the courts and regulators would have loved to see it.
i know it sucks "knowing" something but not being able to prove it. for example, i "know" that the former CEO and senior vice president of the company i work for worked a shady underhanded deal to split up and then sell off the company in order to make themselves millions of dollars out of the deal. i can't prove it, but it was quite obvious in my opinion. you'll never catch me saying that people in corporations are all good people. people are people. whether they be in government, business or wherever. they are nearly always looking out for how they can gain something for themselves or make more money or position themself into more power. that's why SOME government regulation is necessary. however, there is a difference between government regulating things out of necessity and government taking over things that it has no business taking over. it is excessive government regulation and the reaching of government into aspects of our life that it has no business being in that i have a problem with.

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Personally I don't prescribe to the class war that you seem to think I do I want to abandon the hole concept of classes and have everyone be = like our country was founded to be.

our country wasn't founded for everyone to be equal, it was founded with the idea that everyone is equal under the law. people aren't equal, some are smarter, some are luckier, some are prettier, some have messed up psychological problems, some are born with more than others. we aren't equal, but under the law we're supposed to be treated equally. most of us know that it often doesn't seem like we're treated equally under the law. a rich white man who steals millions of dollars from his company's pension plan may get 5 years in a minimum security prison while a poor black man who steals a car might get 12 years in a med - max security prison. but the thing is, that has nothing really to do with the law or the constitution that has to do with PEOPLE. it is people (judges, lawyers,jurors, probation office workers, correction officials) who decided to put one in a minimum security country club while putting the other away for hard time. when the PEOPLE start educating themselves about what is going on and start holding those in charge responsible for their actions, that is when we'll see the country being run the way it's supposed to be.

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		Politics - double split By: spotelmo on Thu, 27 August 2009 13:54
		Re: Splitting the record - about the virtual lock By: RadioactiveHell on Thu, 27 August 2009 14:03
		Re: Splitting the record - about the virtual lock By: spotelmo on Thu, 27 August 2009 14:18
		Re: Splitting the record - about the virtual lock By: Romaner on Thu, 27 August 2009 16:43
		Re: Splitting the record - about the virtual lock By: Dover on Thu, 27 August 2009 21:26
		Re: Splitting the record - about the virtual lock By: spotelmo on Thu, 27 August 2009 21:59
		Re: Splitting the record - about the virtual lock By: darkdragon on Thu, 27 August 2009 22:01
		Re: Splitting the record - about the virtual lock By: Dover on Thu, 27 August 2009 22:02
		Re: Splitting the record - about the virtual lock By: spotelmo on Thu, 27 August 2009 22:10
		Re: Splitting the record - about the virtual lock By: darkdragon on Thu, 27 August 2009 22:22
		Re: Splitting the record - about the virtual lock By: Dover on Thu, 27 August 2009 22:26
		Re: Splitting the record - about the virtual lock By: Crimson on Thu, 27 August 2009 23:27
		Re: Splitting the record - about the virtual lock By: Dover on Thu, 27 August 2009 23:47
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		Re: Splitting the record - about the virtual lock By: spotelmo on Fri, 28 August 2009 02:13
		Re: Splitting the record - about the virtual lock By: Dover on Fri, 28 August 2009 02:41
		Re: Splitting the record - about the virtual lock By: spotelmo on Fri, 28 August 2009 06:02
		Re: Splitting the record - about the virtual lock By: spotelmo on Fri, 28 August 2009 02:18
		Re: Splitting the record - about the virtual lock By: Dover on Fri, 28 August 2009 02:46
		Re: Splitting the record - about the virtual lock By: kadoosh on Fri, 28 August 2009 05:26
		Re: Splitting the record - about the virtual lock By: spotelmo on Fri, 28 August 2009 06:32
		Re: Splitting the record - about the virtual lock By: darkdragon on Fri, 28 August 2009 09:43
		Re: Splitting the record - about the virtual lock By: Dover on Fri, 28 August 2009 14:14
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		Re: Splitting the record - about the virtual lock By: Dover on Sat, 29 August 2009 01:14
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		Re: Splitting the record - about the virtual lock By: kadoosh on Fri, 28 August 2009 10:27
		Re: Splitting the record - about the virtual lock By: darkdragon on Fri, 28 August 2009 10:33
		Re: Splitting the record - about the virtual lock By: spotelmo on Fri, 28 August 2009 11:51
		Re: Splitting the record - about the virtual lock By: darkdragon on Fri, 28 August 2009 12:01
		Re: Splitting the record - about the virtual lock By: spotelmo on Fri, 28 August 2009 14:04
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		Re: Splitting the record - about the virtual lock By: spotelmo on Fri, 28 August 2009 14:07
		Re: Splitting the record - about the virtual lock By: darkdragon on Fri, 28 August 2009 15:31
		Re: Splitting the record - about the virtual lock By: spotelmo on Sat, 29 August 2009 07:56
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		Re: Splitting the record - about the virtual lock By: Starbuzzz on Sun, 30 August 2009 07:25
		Re: Splitting the record - about the virtual lock By: Ryan3k on Sun, 30 August 2009 10:13
		Re: Splitting the record - about the virtual lock By: darkdragon on Sun, 30 August 2009 11:13
		Re: Splitting the record - about the virtual lock By: Herr Surth on Sun, 30 August 2009 11:27
		Re: Splitting the record - about the virtual lock By: Starbuzzz on Sun, 30 August 2009 12:31
		Re: Splitting the record - about the virtual lock By: spotelmo on Sun, 30 August 2009 20:18
		Re: Splitting the record - about the virtual lock By: Ryan3k on Mon, 31 August 2009 12:25
		Re: Splitting the record - about the virtual lock By: kadoosh on Mon, 31 August 2009 18:31
		Re: Splitting the record - about the virtual lock By: Dover on Mon, 31 August 2009 18:40
		Re: Splitting the record - about the virtual lock By: Dover on Sat, 29 August 2009 13:45
		Re: Splitting the record - about the virtual lock By: darkdragon on Sun, 30 August 2009 04:51
		Re: Splitting the record - about the virtual lock By: spotelmo on Sun, 30 August 2009 05:51
		Re: Splitting the record - about the virtual lock By: darkdragon on Sun, 30 August 2009 07:07
		Re: Splitting the record - about the virtual lock By: spotelmo on Sun, 30 August 2009 21:06
		Re: Splitting the record - about the virtual lock By: darkdragon on Mon, 31 August 2009 06:28
		Re: Splitting the record - about the virtual lock By: kadoosh on Mon, 31 August 2009 09:36
		Re: Splitting the record - about the virtual lock By: darkdragon on Mon, 31 August 2009 11:17
		Re: Splitting the record - about the virtual lock By: spotelmo on Mon, 31 August 2009 14:42
		Re: Splitting the record - about the virtual lock By: darkdragon on Mon, 31 August 2009 17:51
		Re: Splitting the record - about the virtual lock By: spotelmo on Mon, 31 August 2009 20:42
		Re: Splitting the record - about the virtual lock By: darkdragon on Mon, 31 August 2009 20:49
		Re: Splitting the record - about the virtual lock By: Dover on Mon, 31 August 2009 20:59
		Re: Splitting the record - about the virtual lock By: spotelmo on Mon, 31 August 2009 21:32
		Re: Splitting the record - about the virtual lock By: Dover on Mon, 31 August 2009 21:49
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		Re: Politics - double split By: Herr Surth on Sun, 30 August 2009 07:16
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