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Tue, 18 August 2009 07:47

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Cunin wrote on Tue, 18 August 2009 14:45

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I very much do my best to understand both point of views, and I was one of the first people to ask Crimson for more information on this very touchy subject of the status of renforums in the Renegade community. One could even say I questioned what happened in a private subforum, as I always like to get to know both sides of the story.

I agree that at certain moments, this wasn't handled very well by both sides. IMO it would have been healthier to have the discussion once and for all in a strictly moderated topic (hey, isn't that what's happening just now in here?).

At the end of the day, there have been some serious communication mistakes from both sides, which made this whole thing look much worse than it was with regards to renforums.com, from the view of an outsider. I dare to state that my intervention didn't go unnoticed, this topic being the main proof of this.

Communicating efficiently and correctly is a very hard thing to do, especially if you're not used to (having to) do it. I suggest now that both sides gave their point of view, that you take some time to look back and check out what further discussion can gain for you. If you both decide that the other won't change their mind and that there's no "solution" to this "problem", then I'm convinced it would be better to stop replying with the same arguments.

If Exodus is to have their place in the community, then these forums should become open towards them sooner or later, but probably after the shit fest ended. If I may give you one hint though, to make this happen faster: change your community's name.

You can find me in The KOSs2 (TK2) discord while I'm playing. Feel free to come and say hi! TK2 discord

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