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Fri, 12 June 2009 18:54

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Spoony wrote on Fri, 12 June 2009 20:46

Wtf are you smoking... we're free not to do what he says? For two thousand years up to and including the present day, we've been told the opposite; we must do what he says or we suffer the most horrific torment imaginable. This is also supposedly the punishment for not believing it. What a fucked-up definition of "free" you have. You may as well say you're free to commit mass murder. Sure you can do it, but you'll be punished.

We're talking 2 different freedoms here. Freedom of choice, and freedom of authority.
Hell is a big reason many dislike Christianity. "He'd never do something like that if he loved us!" Why?

Spoony wrote on Fri, 12 June 2009 20:46

Doesn't it compare to God? Doesn't it compare to the creationist argument that we ought to do what God says because he created us? (that, of course, is really why creationists want to brainwash children in science classes).

No.
And don't evolutionists brainwash children in science classes?

Spoony wrote on Fri, 12 June 2009 20:46

I really don't see how you can compare the two and keep a straight face. We actually know quite a bit about one, and it doesn't defy the rules of science as we understand them, AND it has the bonus of being possible to reproduce in a laboratory; we know absolutely N-O-T-H-I-N-G about the other.

I don't see how 'science' can prove something that happened 'millions of years ago' just as much as anyone says they can't see how God created it all 4000 years ago.
Scientists say the Earth is millions of years old. One of my reasons I don't trust them.

I cannot imagine how the clockwork of the universe can exist without a clockmaker. ~Voltaire

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