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Re: Is Obamas Muslimness Bad? [message #389256 is a reply to message #389253]

Fri, 05 June 2009 06:20

Dover
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You seemed to be misinformed, Mr. ZIMMER, so I'll address these one by one.

GEORGE ZIMMER wrote on Fri, 05 June 2009 05:36

Yes he certainly never added a ridiculously large stimulus bill, gave it to companies who do NOT deserve it,

You misunderstand what the stimulus bill is. The stimulus bill is NOT the free-money bailout (Which, by the way, was a Bush initiative, not Obama's). The only way "undeserving companies" will get a hold of stimulus money is if they enter the employ of the federal or state governments (As in, a construction company receiving money for constructing a building or fixing a road, etc). This in itself isn't anything surprising--that's the way governments get things done.

GEORGE ZIMMER wrote on Fri, 05 June 2009 05:36

closed down a terrorist interrogation facility rather than fixing it up,

The problem with Guantanamo isn't it's physical condition, but rather the fact that it's in international waters where US laws and similar anti-torture institutions don't apply. The way to "fix it up" would be to invade Cuba and make it the 51st state. Closing it down is the right thing to do, especially since nobody can come up with a halfway-decent reason prisoners of war can't be interrogated some place where laws actually apply.

GEORGE ZIMMER wrote on Fri, 05 June 2009 05:36

fucks up a ton of small things when it comes to foreign relations,

The term "small things" and "fuck up" tend to be mutually exclusive. In any case, I'm not sure what you're refering to here. He seems to have done a fantasic job when it comes to foreign relations, and nobody besides butthurt conservifags have found anything bad to say about him (And they don't count, as they unfortunately aren't foreign entities)

GEORGE ZIMMER wrote on Fri, 05 June 2009 05:36

closes down fucking streets for fucking HOURS because he has to try and act like a "common man" by eating out at a restaurant, disregard the fact that he's closing off streets and the like.

I'm pretty sure he isn't ordering the streets to be closed. In fact, in all the times he's gone out (And we know every time, Faux News never fails to throw a bitchfit), I haven't heard anything about streets being closed. At any rate, even IF he was closing streets left and right, I'd let him get away with such a minor gripe since he's reversing the US's terribad opinion overseas, fixing the economy, re-empowering the scientific community, pulling out of Iraq, and restoring the rule of law. In the light of all that, who cares if he closes a street or two? Better he spend his relaxation time amongst people instead of some hidden Texas ranch which acts like an ivory tower.

GEORGE ZIMMER wrote on Fri, 05 June 2009 05:36

And the sheer fact that he's been in office as long as he has and hasn't done anything really beneficial, is another reason to dislike him.

I guess you were expecting the recession to be over in 100 days? He's done plenty. Get your head out of your ass.

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