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Re: McCain picks his vp. [message #348870 is a reply to message #348647]

Sun, 31 August 2008 21:48

cheesesoda
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Registered: March 2003
Location: Jackson, Michigan

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Yeah, well, if we just settle on what was decided in the past then we couldn't fix the mistakes we have made.

Our government has decided on allowing for wire tapping without warrants. It's been years since this has become common place. Is my right to privacy not worth the fight for?

Anybody who can just say "it's in the past" when it comes to laws is too afraid of questioning what they believe. Any politician not willing to vocalize their views, all of them, is not strong enough in their views.

Also, it's not a paradox. It's a matter of whether or not the unborn child is human or a human-to-be. Anybody turning to the argument "it's the woman's body" is looking for a cheap way out to deciding on their values. If the unborn child IS human, then it deserves all of the basic human rights, and unless the child poses a threat to the mother, its rights trumps the mother's misguided assumption that she shouldn't have to be inconvenienced. If it's NOT human, then the fetus doesn't have any rights and abortion should be left alone, unquestioned.

whoa.

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		McCain picks his vp. By: Muad Dib15 on Fri, 29 August 2008 16:25
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