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Tue, 15 April 2008 10:12

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Spoony wrote on Mon, 14 April 2008 03:53

mmhmm.

you could very well argue that a good deed for selfish reasons doesn't change the goodness. e.g. if a person donates $1000 to charity that they spent months saving up, and if McDonalds donated $1000 to the same charity that they earned in like half a second and just wanted to get some good publicity, the money's still gonna do the same thing.

Then you'd be arguing Consequentionalist ethics, and those are just utterly fail. The fact that an act does some good doesn't prove that the act, in itself is good.

I could lynch a black guy in order to stop a riot created by the raping of a white woman. It stops the riot because someone was punished for the act. It was an innocent man, and killing him made people rest easier and prevented the deaths of those that got swallowed up by the riot. It had a good result, overall, but the total lack of justice makes me scoff at the idea that this could be considered moral.

I'll take my Deontological ethics, where intent is what matters regarding morality.

whoa.

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		Re: The greatest trick the Devil ever pulled... By: Blazer on Sun, 13 April 2008 19:18
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		Re: The greatest trick the Devil ever pulled... By: cheesesoda on Tue, 15 April 2008 10:12
		Re: The greatest trick the Devil ever pulled... By: Spoony on Wed, 16 April 2008 01:41
		Re: The greatest trick the Devil ever pulled... By: warranto on Wed, 16 April 2008 12:45
		Re: The greatest trick the Devil ever pulled... By: cheesesoda on Wed, 16 April 2008 13:14
		Re: The greatest trick the Devil ever pulled... By: Ma1kel on Mon, 14 April 2008 07:14
		Re: The greatest trick the Devil ever pulled... By: cheesesoda on Wed, 16 April 2008 05:53
		Re: The greatest trick the Devil ever pulled... By: Starbuzz on Wed, 16 April 2008 11:05
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