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Wed, 13 February 2008 05:49

IronWarrior
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warranto wrote on Tue, 12 February 2008 23:08

Sorry, it's not "fancy words".

Actually, by your definition, you are committing suicide right now. You know you will eventually dying and you are just sitting around waiting for it to happen. In fact, everyone in the world is doing just that.

Knowing you are going to die, but not taking means to prevent it IS NOT suicide.

Taking actions that your death, IS suicide.

It is the ACTION that determines the suicide status. Suicide by cop is just that. Taking an action you know will result in your death.

Inaction, such as waiting around to die, has no basis in suicide. I highly doubt prisoners on death row are being "suicidal" by sitting around in a cell knowing they are going to die.

The "dying for a cause" is just circumst
antial (ie. particular to their circumstance). Debating that is not important, which is probably why you are concentrating on it. Whether or not the person is delusional is not important. The action/inaction of ensuring the death is what is important.

I surly hope you don't have a personal directive (living will) asking that the plug be pulled in a particular circumstance or a do-not-resuscitate order. Because, by your very own definition, those people are committing suicide.

As Jesus know he was gonna be killed the next day, he took no action to stop it, therefore in your own words, he ensured his death.

It's true, everyone is dying right now as we grow older, but as we don't know when we are going to die, could be tomorrow could be 100 years later, this is not in the same group as suicide.

I wouldn't say prisoners are on a level of suicide, I prefer to call it homicide with premeditation by the state. Smile

but I do think they should make a greater effort in prolonging their death, the whole idea of going willing to it, is just wrong.

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