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Re: question to christians about jesus [message #316108 is a reply to message #316102]

Thu, 07 February 2008 22:05

Chimp
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bisen11 wrote on Thu, 07 February 2008 22:39

MWright967 wrote on Tue, 05 February 2008 20:42

bisen11 wrote on Tue, 05 February 2008 19:21

MWright967 wrote on Fri, 01 February 2008 23:45

Muad Dib15 wrote on Fri, 01 February 2008 19:48

He knows it happens. He gave us free will to do whatever we want. That is why there is crime in this world. You think that God wants that man to rob the old lady? You honestly think that? If that is the case, you are just a complete religion idiot.

Yet God could stop it if he wanted to. Then the old lady thus dies, and the robber goes to hell. I'll say it again, considering you appear to be too pumped on religious juice to understand this: According to your bible, God sees all, knows all, and PREDESTINES HISTORY BEFORE IT HAPPENS. THUS THE APOCALYPSE. Which means he could stop the robber, he could save the robber from eternal damnation and the old lady from a too short death, yet he doesn't to fulfill the prophecy of destruction which is yet to come. And you say we have free will? Interesting.

But if the old lady was a good and faithful woman to god then she would be sent to heaven where she would experience eternal bliss. Therefor it would be better to die and go to heaven rather than to stay on earth.

IF the old lady was good. She could be...''So-so'', and could go to limbo, purgatory, etc. And hell, the way the scriptures read, you can condemn yourself to an eternity of misery for doing a few mild things wrong. The old lady isn't necessarily good. It even says in the bible that ''Walking through the gates of heaven is a task for those who are pure of heart''. Not many people are ''pure of heart''.

Also, heaven is described as a wondrous and happy place, but it never says you will be completely happy. You won't see your children, your friends, family, anything, until many years pass and they as well, and even then, they may not go to heaven. See how this starts to riccochet?

How can I have everlasting happiness without the ones who care for me and that I spend my life with? Oh, wait, I'll use the argument of every priest and pastor in the world, ''With god, all things are possible''. Lol.

A person can get out of purgatory and go to heaven. Purgatory is a place of clensing one's heart and becoming ready to enter heaven. I believe god is very forgiving. The main thing he wants is for you to believe in him. Things like murder however I believe will get you into hell aside from maybe to protect other people from being killed.

As to heaven, well neither of us knows what it is truly like. For all we know there are replicas of our family that we don't even know are replicas. Does time even exist in heaven? I believe I have heard that your mind is truly opened when you enter heaven so I doubt one's thought process will be the same as it is on earth. It's likely that everyone cares for everyone.

I'll steal a little snipet from starbuzz:

LOL @ people acting like all of this stuff is 100% fact.

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