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Re: question to christians about jesus [message #315199 is a reply to message #315072] Sat, 02 February 2008 23:19 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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MWright967 wrote on Sat, 02 February 2008 00:43

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MWright967 wrote on Fri, 01 February 2008 22:45

Muad Dib15 wrote on Fri, 01 February 2008 19:48

He knows it happens. He gave us free will to do whatever we want. That is why there is crime in this world. You think that God wants that man to rob the old lady? You honestly think that? If that is the case, you are just a complete religion idiot.


Yet God could stop it if he wanted to. Then the old lady thus dies, and the robber goes to hell. I'll say it again, considering you appear to be too pumped on religious juice to understand this: According to your bible, God sees all, knows all, and PREDESTINES HISTORY BEFORE IT HAPPENS. THUS THE APOCALYPSE. Which means he could stop the robber, he could save the robber from eternal damnation and the old lady from a too short death, yet he doesn't to fulfill the prophecy of destruction which is yet to come. And you say we have free will? Interesting.

THAT IS NOT TRUE. Don't talk of what you don't know about. He gave us free will to do what WE want. If we choose to follow him, we have everlasting life waiting for us. If we choose not to, we go to hell. Simple as that. How is that being a mean God? All he wants is one thing: To believe in him. How is that a mean god. eh?


Take it from someone whose actually read the better portion of the bible. He creates man in his image. He said it himself. Which means that God created cruel creatures, and is thus himself cruel. One of the many flaws of the bible.

He gave us free will, according to you. Which means we can do as we wish. Okay. He still KNOWS ITS GOING TO HAPPEN AND LETS IT HAPPEN. Guess what? If you know that someone is going to be murdered, but you don't do anything about it, you're held accountable. Why? Because the law dictates it so. God knows these things are going to happen, and thus he himself is accountable. He is the law and he dictates it that way.

You COMPLETELY skip over the entire example of the apocalypse. I find it funny how it says in the bible ''This will happen, and this will happen, and that will happen...''. Someone has to cause these things to happen. If Bush were to cause the apocalypse, its BUSH. A HUMAN. DOING IT. Already foretold and prophescized by God. Which means he purposely created Bush, or altered Bush in some way, to fulfill the prophecy. Please attempt to take the cork out of your ears and understand that according to the bible, God really isn't giving humans free will. And if he is, in some twisted way? Hes a pretty sick fuck for letting so much bad crap happen.


The apocalypse will be when Jesus comes back to earth and judges who will go to heaven or not. So they apocalypse isn't a bad thing if you think about it...


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