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Re: Election '08 [message #309206 is a reply to message #309014]

Wed, 09 January 2008 13:25

GoArmy44
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cheesesoda wrote on Wed, 09 January 2008 06:03

Jecht wrote on Wed, 09 January 2008 05:20

I've watched the August 5 debate in Iowa on youtube, and Ron Paul seems to be a liberal in Red clothing. He supports pulling the troops out...right now. That would do more harm than good at this point. Whether you're for, or against the war, that much has to be certain. I still have no idea who I'm voting for, but Huckabee, Thompson, Hunter, Guiliani, and Romney are probably who I'm deciding between on the Republican side. I still have to find time to look at the debates for the Dems.

He's a L-I-B-E-R-T-A-R-I-A-N. There's nothing Democrat about him. In fact, he's a paleolibertarian, so he's somewhat of a conservative libertarian.

I actually call him a paleoconservative but I think in hindsight that would be wrong, I should call him a constitutionalist. He is the most conservative of the Republicans...I mean what isn't conservative about not meddling in other people's countries? People who call him liberal really need to check him out, his views on the government's role sound nothing like the mainstream liberals of today.

I think Ron Paul is hurt by several factors not under his control(I won't go into his personal faults): 1. His supporters..while most of them are good small government supporters some are bat shit crazy with conspiracy theories. Every time I go on ronpaulforums.com I see several 9/11 conspiracy nuts who are probably the same guys who go to opponent's rallies(which are covered more by the media) and scream 9/11 truth over and over again. This doesn't help Ron Paul at all with the general populace...I mean the guy doesn't support any of the trash they are saying.
And 2: The smear job of the mainstream media...FoxNews especially. Its amazing how many times several of their conservative commentators say he thinks that the US is responsible for 9/11..it kinda makes me sick. Dismissing someone by saying they are a fanatic is ignorant, read into his positions, see what he stands for, and most importantly see what his record says!...you might just be surprised.

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