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Re: are we alone? [message #288851 is a reply to message #288387]

Sat, 06 October 2007 22:14

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cheesesoda wrote on Thu, 04 October 2007 21:51

Renerage wrote on Thu, 04 October 2007 22:29

Spoken like a true thinker.
That's exactly the kind of post that I DIDN'T expect to see on here.

Well, it's kind of silly to be talking in absolutes about something we have no proof on. It's entirely a faith-based decision that you have to make.

As I meant to say, you can't mock someone for believing in the opposite and not consider yourself to be a hypocrite because it comes down to the same principle belief. Something always existed. Whether it was the matter, the matter's creator, the matter's creator's creator, and so on... That's what's up for debate. It's, also, quite silly for people to be calling each other idiots because one believes in a creator for the matter, or just the matter.

Renerage

Remember the ending to MIB? With the mutiple galaxies being played with like marbles? Now, I don't mean we are marbles,
but what if we're part of something bigger...And god as we know it, is just the "bigger being"..
Iunno, random ranting I guesss.

Then, in theory, are we capable of creating something so much smaller than ourselves that would be unable to say, with certainty, that we exist? If so, how close are we to this technology?

In technology terms, we are very far off, but we have an theory on how it could be done, they believe they have the maths to do it, but to be honest, the whole idea of creating an entire Universe in our own, scares me, what if they get it wrong... we could destroy ourselfs.

razorblade001 wrote on Sat, 06 October 2007 22:05

cheesesoda wrote on Thu, 04 October 2007 22:25

One can only speculate answers to this. Just as one can only speculate what created the Big Bang. Was it a god that has no creator, or was initiated that has no creator? Whatever you come down to, there is still a point of "how the fuck did it get there in the first place?" Either way you answer it, it's impossible to mock the other person for believing that the matter always existed (how?) or whether there was a being that always existed (how?) to create the matter.

Well the big bang is simple to think about really... it was just a small condenced space filled with all the matter in our Universe. It continued to absorb and/or create matter until it couldn't handle the mass of what it had and exploded.

The real question to speculate is what lies beyond the Universe?

The Universe is what is outside of everything... correct? Well, if that is true, then when(if) the Big bang happened, it had to be contained within some sort of space.

Unless there was something beyond the universe. Or else really, how is the Universe created... within the Universe?

The present theory of that is there is an unlimited number of Universe's, an easy way to understand this, is that the universe is floating alongside an unlimited number of other universe's, like micros in water.

An other theory on top of that explains the big bang, the theory explains when one universe bumps into an other, an new universe is born, the birth of a new one, has no effect on the others around it, but with two universes bumping into one other, they transform the raw stuff to make everything, like a child you could say.

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