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Thu, 27 September 2007 04:38

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w0dka wrote on Wed, 26 September 2007 16:34

1on1? Renegade isn't balanced for this stuff. Some Maps are impossible to win with base destruction.

A win on points is a win. Westwood specifically designed the game as such.

w0dka wrote on Wed, 26 September 2007 16:34

And because you can't watch a whole base alone AND attack it's pretty much luck.

No, it's using quick thinking to know when to attack and when to defend.

w0dka wrote on Wed, 26 September 2007 16:34

Forexample a beacon is practicaly doom for the defender on maps like islands or compley/canyon. Check all buildings + killing the beacondefender AND disarm it is pretty much impossible.

That's why they cost 1000.

w0dka wrote on Wed, 26 September 2007 16:34

the winner of a 1on1 is pretty much random

In that case, I'd love to know why certain players consistently win them...

w0dka wrote on Wed, 26 September 2007 16:34

Some people own with infantry yes. But in a standart game i don't run into them with infantry Smile

If there is a good sniper on the enemy team i usually tend to show him the flaws of sniperrifles with my tank.

Firstly someone who gets a sniper in a 1v1 is an idiot unless the enemy's lost the WF/strip, secondly on most maps you definitely need good infantry skills to secure an early advantage.

w0dka wrote on Wed, 26 September 2007 16:34

Also in Renegade it's nearly imposible to create a fair 1on1 situation, it's all about distance cover

You mean who's skilled and savvy enough to use cover to their advantage, and quick-witted enough to get there in good time?

w0dka wrote on Wed, 26 September 2007 16:34

char

You mean who's got the brains to know what infantry to use and the skill to use it effectively?

w0dka wrote on Wed, 26 September 2007 16:34

vehicle

see above, but replace "infantry" with "vehicle"

w0dka wrote on Wed, 26 September 2007 16:34

who-sees-who-first.

...what are you looking for if not your only opponent?

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		Opinion piece of sorts - "1v1 doesn't prove skill" By: Spoony on Wed, 26 September 2007 07:06
		Re: Opinion piece of sorts - "1v1 doesn't prove skill" By: AoBfrost on Wed, 26 September 2007 08:13
		Re: Opinion piece of sorts - "1v1 doesn't prove skill" By: w0dka on Wed, 26 September 2007 08:34
		Re: Opinion piece of sorts - "1v1 doesn't prove skill" By: Spoony on Thu, 27 September 2007 04:38
		Re: Opinion piece of sorts - "1v1 doesn't prove skill" By: w0dka on Thu, 27 September 2007 06:51
		Re: Opinion piece of sorts - "1v1 doesn't prove skill" By: Herr Surth on Wed, 26 September 2007 08:49
		Re: Opinion piece of sorts - "1v1 doesn't prove skill" By: BlueThen on Wed, 26 September 2007 12:33
		Re: Opinion piece of sorts - "1v1 doesn't prove skill" By: w0dka on Wed, 26 September 2007 13:49
		Re: Opinion piece of sorts - "1v1 doesn't prove skill" By: trooprm02 on Wed, 26 September 2007 12:48
		Re: Opinion piece of sorts - "1v1 doesn't prove skill" By: Herr Surth on Wed, 26 September 2007 13:07
		Re: Opinion piece of sorts - "1v1 doesn't prove skill" By: trooprm02 on Wed, 26 September 2007 14:43
		Re: Opinion piece of sorts - "1v1 doesn't prove skill" By: Herr Surth on Wed, 26 September 2007 14:54
		Re: Opinion piece of sorts - "1v1 doesn't prove skill" By: GsXr1400 on Wed, 26 September 2007 16:03
		Re: Opinion piece of sorts - "1v1 doesn't prove skill" By: BlueThen on Wed, 26 September 2007 16:05
		Re: Opinion piece of sorts - "1v1 doesn't prove skill" By: GsXr1400 on Thu, 27 September 2007 04:21
		Re: Opinion piece of sorts - "1v1 doesn't prove skill" By: Starbuzz on Wed, 26 September 2007 16:24
		Re: Opinion piece of sorts - "1v1 doesn't prove skill" By: Herr Surth on Thu, 27 September 2007 03:19
		Re: Opinion piece of sorts - "1v1 doesn't prove skill" By: GsXr1400 on Thu, 27 September 2007 04:19
		Re: Opinion piece of sorts - "1v1 doesn't prove skill" By: Herr Surth on Thu, 27 September 2007 04:22
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		Re: Opinion piece of sorts - "1v1 doesn't prove skill" By: Spoony on Thu, 27 September 2007 06:53
		Re: Opinion piece of sorts - "1v1 doesn't prove skill" By: Herr Surth on Thu, 27 September 2007 05:24
		Re: Opinion piece of sorts - "1v1 doesn't prove skill" By: GsXr1400 on Thu, 27 September 2007 06:49
		Re: Opinion piece of sorts - "1v1 doesn't prove skill" By: w0dka on Thu, 27 September 2007 07:10
		Re: Opinion piece of sorts - "1v1 doesn't prove skill" By: Spoony on Thu, 27 September 2007 09:03
		Re: Opinion piece of sorts - "1v1 doesn't prove skill" By: Herr Surth on Thu, 27 September 2007 07:13
		Re: Opinion piece of sorts - "1v1 doesn't prove skill" By: w0dka on Thu, 27 September 2007 07:28
		Re: Opinion piece of sorts - "1v1 doesn't prove skill" By: GsXr1400 on Thu, 27 September 2007 08:05
		Re: Opinion piece of sorts - "1v1 doesn't prove skill" By: w0dka on Thu, 27 September 2007 16:08
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		Re: Opinion piece of sorts - "1v1 doesn't prove skill" By: CarrierII on Thu, 27 September 2007 10:56
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		Re: Opinion piece of sorts - "1v1 doesn't prove skill" By: Tunaman on Thu, 27 September 2007 16:55
		Re: Opinion piece of sorts - "1v1 doesn't prove skill" By: Spoony on Thu, 27 September 2007 20:03
		Re: Opinion piece of sorts - "1v1 doesn't prove skill" By: Herr Surth on Fri, 28 September 2007 03:13
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		Re: Opinion piece of sorts - "1v1 doesn't prove skill" By: The Elite Officer on Fri, 28 September 2007 05:39
		Re: Opinion piece of sorts - "1v1 doesn't prove skill" By: Caveman on Fri, 28 September 2007 08:12
		Re: Opinion piece of sorts - "1v1 doesn't prove skill" By: The Elite Officer on Fri, 28 September 2007 08:50
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		Re: Opinion piece of sorts - "1v1 doesn't prove skill" By: Ethenal on Fri, 05 October 2007 20:09
		Re: Opinion piece of sorts - "1v1 doesn't prove skill" By: Herr Surth on Sat, 06 October 2007 02:09
		Re: Opinion piece of sorts - "1v1 doesn't prove skill" By: Tunaman on Sat, 06 October 2007 00:42
		Re: Opinion piece of sorts - "1v1 doesn't prove skill" By: nikki6ixx on Sat, 06 October 2007 14:13
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		Re: Opinion piece of sorts - "1v1 doesn't prove skill" By: Renerage on Mon, 08 October 2007 22:40
		Re: Opinion piece of sorts - "1v1 doesn't prove skill" By: Starbuzz on Mon, 08 October 2007 23:48
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		Re: Opinion piece of sorts - "1v1 doesn't prove skill" By: GsXr1400 on Tue, 09 October 2007 00:00
		Re: Opinion piece of sorts - "1v1 doesn't prove skill" By: The Elite Officer on Tue, 09 October 2007 08:50
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		Re: Opinion piece of sorts - "1v1 doesn't prove skill" By: BlueThen on Wed, 10 October 2007 14:16
		Re: Opinion piece of sorts - "1v1 doesn't prove skill" By: Sniper_De7 on Thu, 11 October 2007 05:15
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