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Re: Microsoft has a backdoor into XP and Vista systems [message #284771 is a reply to message #284537]

Sun, 16 September 2007 21:20

NukeIt15
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No, not quite... Norton is quite a bit worse than Windows Firewall. If you disable Norton's firewall, it gives you a popup every few minutes or so reminding you that it isn't turned on- even if you shut down the software completely (or, at least, as completely as it will let you- some Norton processes can't be terminated without asking Norton first). Norton requires you to log into their service and verify your user privileges before you can uninstall their crap off of your computer- and then it might not uninstall all the way, leaving components behind until you can root out and eliminate any leftovers. Norton, these days, is (IMHO) a bit tougher than even AOL is to clean off of a system.

Windows Firewall at least buggers the hell off if you tell it to, even if it is a crappy substandard excuse for a "firewall" built into the OS which couldn't find its own ass with both hands and a searchlight, much less any threat to your system. If you believe yourself well-protected and you use anything built into a Microsoft OS for protection, you are a sadly deluded individual.

Myself, I use ZoneAlarm these days. It works, it doesn't bork up the system every time I disable it, and- best of all- it only asks for my permission to do things, not its vendor's. That's what I want software to do; I don't like to have anything less than 100% control over everything that happens on my system. Software that alters my startup options, or denies me permission to access my own files, or downloads crap from its vendor without my say-so, is simply not acceptable.

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Remember, kids: illiteracy is cool. If you took the time to read this, you are clearly a loser who will never get laid. You've been warned.

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		Microsoft has a backdoor into XP and Vista systems By: NukeIt15 on Sat, 15 September 2007 16:02
		Re: Microsoft has a backdoor into XP and Vista systems By: AoBfrost on Sat, 15 September 2007 16:25
		Re: Microsoft has a backdoor into XP and Vista systems By: Renx on Sat, 15 September 2007 16:38
		Re: Microsoft has a backdoor into XP and Vista systems By: Matix101 on Sat, 15 September 2007 17:53
		Re: Microsoft has a backdoor into XP and Vista systems By: Oblivion165 on Sat, 15 September 2007 19:29
		Re: Microsoft has a backdoor into XP and Vista systems By: Matix101 on Sat, 15 September 2007 19:37
		Re: Microsoft has a backdoor into XP and Vista systems By: AoBfrost on Sat, 15 September 2007 19:39
		Re: Microsoft has a backdoor into XP and Vista systems By: Matix101 on Sat, 15 September 2007 19:43
		Re: Microsoft has a backdoor into XP and Vista systems By: cmatt42 on Sat, 15 September 2007 21:22
		Re: Microsoft has a backdoor into XP and Vista systems By: Jonty on Sun, 16 September 2007 00:33
		Re: Microsoft has a backdoor into XP and Vista systems By: Speedy059 on Sun, 16 September 2007 00:56
		Re: Microsoft has a backdoor into XP and Vista systems By: Xylaquin on Sun, 16 September 2007 00:58
		Re: Microsoft has a backdoor into XP and Vista systems By: Ghostshaw on Sun, 16 September 2007 02:01
		Re: Microsoft has a backdoor into XP and Vista systems By: puddle_splasher on Sun, 16 September 2007 02:52
		Re: Microsoft has a backdoor into XP and Vista systems By: trooprm02 on Sun, 16 September 2007 06:51
		Re: Microsoft has a backdoor into XP and Vista systems By: sadukar09 on Sun, 16 September 2007 06:54
		Re: Microsoft has a backdoor into XP and Vista systems By: Caveman on Sun, 16 September 2007 07:39
		Re: Microsoft has a backdoor into XP and Vista systems By: sadukar09 on Sun, 16 September 2007 07:48
		Re: Microsoft has a backdoor into XP and Vista systems By: cmatt42 on Sun, 16 September 2007 09:10
		Re: Microsoft has a backdoor into XP and Vista systems By: Xylaquin on Sun, 16 September 2007 09:24
		Re: Microsoft has a backdoor into XP and Vista systems By: Caveman on Sun, 16 September 2007 09:30
		Re: Microsoft has a backdoor into XP and Vista systems By: Viking on Sun, 16 September 2007 10:57
		Re: Microsoft has a backdoor into XP and Vista systems By: trooprm02 on Sun, 16 September 2007 11:20
		Re: Microsoft has a backdoor into XP and Vista systems By: trooprm02 on Sun, 16 September 2007 11:23
		Re: Microsoft has a backdoor into XP and Vista systems By: Caveman on Sun, 16 September 2007 16:00
		Re: Microsoft has a backdoor into XP and Vista systems By: NukeIt15 on Sun, 16 September 2007 21:20
		Re: Microsoft has a backdoor into XP and Vista systems By: jnz on Mon, 17 September 2007 10:01
		Re: Microsoft has a backdoor into XP and Vista systems By: CarrierII on Mon, 17 September 2007 10:06
		Re: Microsoft has a backdoor into XP and Vista systems By: egg098 on Mon, 17 September 2007 10:25
		Re: Microsoft has a backdoor into XP and Vista systems By: NukeIt15 on Mon, 17 September 2007 13:20
		Re: Microsoft has a backdoor into XP and Vista systems By: Romaner on Mon, 17 September 2007 14:57
		Re: Microsoft has a backdoor into XP and Vista systems By: Nightma12 on Tue, 18 September 2007 05:01
		Re: Microsoft has a backdoor into XP and Vista systems By: egg098 on Tue, 18 September 2007 10:28
		Re: Microsoft has a backdoor into XP and Vista systems By: CarrierII on Tue, 18 September 2007 12:19
		Re: Microsoft has a backdoor into XP and Vista systems By: Jonty on Tue, 18 September 2007 14:16
		Re: Microsoft has a backdoor into XP and Vista systems By: CarrierII on Wed, 19 September 2007 14:59

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