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Re: erikboxem [message #272789 is a reply to message #272733]

Thu, 12 July 2007 09:32

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One Winged Angel wrote on Thu, 12 July 2007 13:46

Dammit, the stupidity of some people here is unbearable.

Why should he be banned if he has not done anything to you personally and he wasn't doing any intentional harm to other players? I agree that cheats are bad, but without a spectator mode or something (like MP-Gaming's server) what was there to use to root out the cheat? IRC logs are good but con-crete proof is more substantial in an argument to back up the log.

I believe erik acted in a perfectly acceptable way since he has the authority to do so. Any of you saying "well does that mean we can cheat to find cheaters" are wrong, since you don't have the right to do so on their server. Since erik is an official on the server, I would see that it is his right to use what methods he can to root out cheaters. Although, he should think a bit more next time before acting so rashly.

Give him a slap on the wrist and send him on his way. Banning is too extreme for this case.

It is his server is it not? Or am I mistaken here. I find it perfectly acceptable if it is on his server. Otherwise I take back my previous comment.

Logs are too long, so I didn't read. I'm just vouching an opinion based on what I know.

Needs Saberhawk's anticheat..... It blocks 90% of renegade nastys. Pity it is clientside though :\

Well, if it's his server, let him do what he fucking wants with it.

OK, read this slowly and carefully.

1. It didn't happen in his public server. It was an organised community match. If the leader of the opposite team wasn't informed beforehand about the fact the leader of each team is supposedly "allowed" to use cheats - and he clearly wasn't - he DOESN'T have the authority to use it.
2. This is the important part:
HE LIED TO YOU AND HIS COMMUNITY ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED

HE SAID HE LEFT THE GAME TO TURN ON THE CHEAT FOR ITS SPECTATOR QUALITIES - HE WAS LYING TO YOU, LOGS HAVE PROVEN THIS. HE WAS PROBABLY LYING ABOUT THE "CHEATER" ON THE OTHER TEAM TOO, SINCE NOT A SHRED OF EVIDENCE HAS BEEN POSTED TO SUPPORT IT OTHER THAN THE WORD OF SOMEONE WHO HAS PROVEN HE WILL LIE TO HIS OWN COMMUNITY TO MANIPULATE THEM INTO SUPPORTING HIM AFTER HE WAS CAUGHT CHEATING

Don't post again until you've read and understood the reality of that post ^^

Just to repeat something:

Spoony wrote

If he did leave the game briefly, then he may be telling the truth.

If he didn't, then he's not only a cheater but he's also lied to his own community so they'll risk their own reputations to stick up for him, which is very nearly (but not quite) as pathetic as actually cheating.

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