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Sat, 09 June 2007 14:01

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StealthEye wrote on Sat, 09 June 2007 15:33

In open field, yes, the orca would win, but a skilled sniper can simply shoot and hide again. Then the orca is down in no time with relatively little damage to the orca. Orca's aren't invincible, you make it sound that way.

A skilled orca pilot will not lose to a 500 sniper NO MATTER HOW GOOD THE 500 SNIPER IS.

StealthEye wrote on Sat, 09 June 2007 15:33

And if you think that is (at least mostly) true, then shouldn't your opinion piece be about orcas instead of donating?

no, because by the time a non-donating team has an orca, the opposite team also can afford its counter: apaches and ramjets, barring superior harrassment.

It has nothing to do with orcas being overpowered, and everything to do with orcas being available sooner than they should be.

StealthEye wrote on Sat, 09 June 2007 15:33

Also, do you have any argument on nonflying maps?

How many examples do you want?

Complex, Volcano, Canyon: GDI APC blocks.
Typically, Nod has a fair chance of getting money quickly enough so that they can deploy an artillery before a GDI APC arrives on the airstrip. If they don't, GDI has a massive advantage. This is balanced and dependent on which team performs harrassment better.
Donating completely changes that to "which team sits in their base and types the donate command", therefore COMPLETELY CHANGING THE ECONOMY SYSTEM, THEREFORE COMPLETELY CHANGING THE GAME.

Mesa: Fast anti-harvester
Once again, whether GDI or Nod gets their tanks in the cave faster is dependent on harrassment - killing and protecting the harvesters, and the crate. This is entirely dependent on which team is better organised and has better pistol ability, and that team can gain a massive advantage. But hey, if I was donated for an artillery straight away and you didn't donate too, do you know how long it'd be before you could afford a med tank? I'll give you a clue: about five minutes. Do you have any idea what the two teams' relative financial and points situations will be by then? We'll have arties all over the cave and the side covered, LONG before you have med tanks, and you won't pull the game back from that.
Not because we harrassed better, but because we donated and you didn't.

Field and Under: same principle as Mesa

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		An opinion piece - Donating By: Spoony on Fri, 08 June 2007 02:20
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