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Fri, 08 June 2007 04:28

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CarrierII wrote on Fri, 08 June 2007 05:34

What about the fact that GDI soldiers do more damage than Nod ones? That lends a small advantage to GDI (I know it allegedly counter-balances with Nod having the cheaper tanks, but if Nod can't secure their harvester due to the inferior weaponry, Nod can't afford their cheaper tanks anyway)

It does balance it out.

StealthEye wrote

The first crate is usually the most important one though. And gets collected at the time where donating usually matters most (At the game start).

One crate doesn't come anywhere near compensating for a team donating for an orca.

StealthEye wrote

The first bit doesn't state that these questions are the only ones that can be asked. I already proved that the westwood thing was false anyway.

No, you didn't.

StealthEye wrote

'The team with better infantry skills and better co-ordination is able to obtain money more quickly than their opponents'.
This statement still applies with donate on.

No, it doesn't. In a public server with donate on, a team without the slightest skill can donate for an orca, APC, whatever without even having to leave base, whereas a team effectively harrassing is virtually guaranteed to get screwed over unless they donate as well.

StealthEye wrote

The fact both teams can do it doesn't mean it should be allowed and doesn't mean it's balanced.
Correct, but the following is true too:
The fact both teams can do it doesn't mean it should NOT be allowed and doesn't mean it's NOT balanced.

Totally irrelevant point, since nobody said the fact both teams can do it is a reason why it shouldn't be allowed.

StealthEye wrote

There are more ways to counter this orca. Note how the other team has no money left! You can kill the orca with a sniper or whatever you like, you have more money to spend and can probably (with donating or not) get multiple apaches's due to your superior start. One way or another, you will have an advantage.

If one team immediately donates for an orca, the only conceivable way to counter is for the other team to do exactly the same thing and donate too. The other team won't need money, they have a fucking orca

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		An opinion piece - Donating By: Spoony on Fri, 08 June 2007 02:20
		Re: An opinion piece - Donating By: StealthEye on Fri, 08 June 2007 03:04
		Re: An opinion piece - Donating By: Spoony on Fri, 08 June 2007 03:09
		Re: An opinion piece - Donating By: puddle_splasher on Fri, 08 June 2007 03:31
		Re: An opinion piece - Donating By: CarrierII on Fri, 08 June 2007 03:34
		Re: An opinion piece - Donating By: Spoony on Fri, 08 June 2007 04:28
		Re: An opinion piece - Donating By: StealthEye on Fri, 08 June 2007 04:12
		Re: An opinion piece - Donating By: jnz on Fri, 08 June 2007 04:33
		Re: An opinion piece - Donating By: puddle_splasher on Sat, 09 June 2007 01:05
		Re: An opinion piece - Donating By: StealthEye on Fri, 08 June 2007 05:03
		Re: An opinion piece - Donating By: Spoony on Fri, 08 June 2007 06:46
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		Re: An opinion piece - Donating By: warranto on Fri, 08 June 2007 07:11
		Re: An opinion piece - Donating By: Spoony on Fri, 08 June 2007 07:15
		Re: An opinion piece - Donating By: CarrierII on Fri, 08 June 2007 07:50
		Re: An opinion piece - Donating By: warranto on Fri, 08 June 2007 07:55
		Re: An opinion piece - Donating By: Spoony on Fri, 08 June 2007 08:10
		Re: An opinion piece - Donating By: CarrierII on Fri, 08 June 2007 08:00
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		Re: An opinion piece - Donating By: Spoony on Fri, 08 June 2007 09:22
		Re: An opinion piece - Donating By: warranto on Fri, 08 June 2007 09:46
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		Re: An opinion piece - Donating By: sadukar09 on Sat, 09 June 2007 11:25
		Re: An opinion piece - Donating By: warranto on Sat, 09 June 2007 12:16
		Re: An opinion piece - Donating By: Spoony on Sat, 09 June 2007 13:11
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		Re: An opinion piece - Donating By: StealthEye on Sun, 10 June 2007 05:57
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