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Re: Virginia Tech Massacre [message #254528 is a reply to message #254518]

Wed, 18 April 2007 07:31

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Nodbugger wrote on Wed, 18 April 2007 09:51

j_ball430 wrote on Tue, 17 April 2007 00:41

Your first instinct is survival. Plus, the guy was obviously very accurate and lethal with his shots. It seems that he didn't fire too many rounds, but he did quite a bit of damage with just a couple of handguns.

Witnesses say he just randomly fired and was not aiming at all.

Actually he was aiming very well. Here is a quote from CNN:

"A doctor at a Blacksburg hospital described the injuries he saw Monday as "amazing" and the shooter as "brutal." "There wasn't a shooting victim that didn't have less than three bullet wounds in them," said Dr. Joseph Cacioppo of Montgomery Regional Hospital."

You can read more here: http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/04/17/vtech.wounded/index.html

PS: Hey, I don't disagree with your opinions. I am sure that I could have, just as you, maintained a cool head. But look at the facts: it was an engineering building with people studying German, French, Physics...they were NOT in an ROTC Leadership course.

AND YET, you MUST give credit to the student(s) who pressed themselves against the door. The scumbag shot through the door and left when he could not get in. So there you go: 4 lives saved.

The students CANNOT be blamed. They expect security to be provided by the campus police. They were there to study...not to hear a gun go off and stop a monster.

Also, you have to look at the human phychology. Like gbull clearly puts it, we humans have obligations...to ourselves and to our loved ones. So the first human (to most humans atleast) reaction would be to retreat to a safe zone.

They were only students...just as the businessmen/women/ordinary civilians in the First Class of the hijacked 9/11 aircraft. They were on the plane so they can go on their routine lives...not stop mad terrorists. Since they were surprised, they were overwhelmed...and yet there were acts of heroism in 9/11.

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