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Re: Marijuana [message #244759 is a reply to message #243686]

Sat, 10 February 2007 20:41

ron paul
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Crimson wrote on Tue, 06 February 2007 01:22

mjfabian wrote on Mon, 05 February 2007 17:22

Crimson, your claim that marijuana would make people commit acts of violence because they're "too high to consider the consequences" is completely bogus. You can't immediately associate his violence or negligence with being high just because he was high while committing violent acts. Try finding anything reliable on the web that ties violence to marijuana use. If someone committed a crime, he or she should only be prosecuted for that crime (this includes alcohol).

I didn't claim that... you must be smoking crack. Once again, he was suicidal and drunk which led to violence. The weed just helped the alcohol to make sure he didn't think twice about what could happen if he pulled the trigger, and he went for it and ended a woman's life and left two kids without their mother.

Personally, I'm not stupid enough to put weed, cigarettes, or alcohol into my body (I do have, on average, the equivalent of 6-8 drinks in a year and I do not drive for at least an hour, even after 1 drink.)

No one seems to have picked on the area I highlighted. You see delta-9-tetrahydracanibinol (THC the chemical in weed responsible for you getting high) actually does the exact opposite. Even with alcohol. In fact probably even more so with alcohol [not including unique cases].

You don't smoke weed if you're going to off yourself. You see after you've toked up. You'll then realize how horrific death is and the last thing you'll want to do is go through with it. And since alcohol generally tends to amplify whatever emotion you're feeling at the time [minus being overly bold when you should be more discreet] it should have further made him realize this. He was obviously too far gone an alcoholic or wasn't quite ticking over mentally. Or alternatively he'd built up too much of a tolerance to the stuff and wasn't actually stoned when he done it.

If anything you could say the weed would have delayed his suicide for maybe months.

But yeah Crimson. Some people would rather get stoned and do house hold chores, homework or their job. And they aren't drooling going "MAAAN IM SO FRIED, MY HAND LOOKS SO COOL. I CANT EVEN BE BOTHERED DOING ANY WORK MAN. HELL YEAH 420 SKMOE DEEEEW EVERY DAY MAAAAAAN!!!" they are actually thinking "right, better get this assignment out the way because I'm more driven out of fear of losing my job now than I am sober when I'd be more bored doing this assignment." Yep, stoners ARE DROOLING FUCKING RETARDS THAT JUST DONT CARE ABOUT ANYTHING.

Of course who cares to even bother researching cannabis before jumping on the "FUCK FUCK IT MAKES YOU LAZY AND YOU MAKES DONT CARE FUCK FUCK OH GOD IT MAKES YOU LAZY AND TURNS YOU INTO A ZOMBIE.. HURRRRRRRR. WE ARE UPSTANDING CONSERVATIVES AND WE'LL BE FUCKED IF WE RESEARCH DRUGS. HURF HURF DURRRRRRRRR" bandwagon.

this is more common than the self-diagnosis of asperger's in the goon population how is it obsCURE FUCKKK

[Updated on: Sat, 10 February 2007 20:46]

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