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Thu, 09 November 2006 01:56

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trooprm02 wrote on Wed, 08 November 2006 17:38

Ok, thats sounds more interesting, the only things is:

1)the ads, im used to like these forums and etc, where it doesnt have to be ad sponsered.

The google banner takes up a very small portion of the league page... they don't pop-up at you or anything.

trooprm02 wrote on Wed, 08 November 2006 17:38

2)not dedicated to renegade only, im sure others will agree

derm, the Renegade league is dedicated to Renegade only (actually, I tell a lie, it supports Red Alert: A Path Beyond too, but they're very rarely played anyway)

What's the issue here with there being other leagues on the same site? They don't interfere with the Renegade league on any level whatsoever, even the other league(s) aside from Renegade I'm personally involved with.

trooprm02 wrote on Wed, 08 November 2006 17:38

althought this is maybe currently the "best" ladder system for renegade, the old WOL was better

Was it fuck. The points system was ridiculously primitive, it was completely unmoderated, it had fuck all functionality compared to the Clanwars.cc league, and it didn't even work half the time. I'll give you an example: December 2004, my clan LlGHT was BY FAR the best competitive clan at the time, we raped EVERY other clan who played, and none of our games reported at all - resulting in a much inferior clan (whose record against us was about 40-3 in our favour, and two of those "wins" were when we were winning and they kicked us - of course, on the WOL ladder there was nothing you could do if a clan did that to you, or cheated against you, or ob walked or whatever, unlike the Clanwars.cc league) winning the ladder that month.

What else? Well, a significant chunk of the games registered on the ladder were 0-pointers, half the players joined but someone didn't have a start button or something so they left to find a different server... yet the game reported anyway and counted as a win, and of course since we're still in unmoderated territory nobody could remove them, so clans got wins and losses for games that weren't even played. I could go on, but the fact is every clan worth a shit knows the WOL clan ladder was a complete joke.

trooprm02 wrote on Wed, 08 November 2006 17:38

and in anycase, a ladder system dedicated soley for renegade would obviously fair much better than a system that incorporates many other games, and maybe doesnt focus on ren as much as it could Huh

I fail to see why you perceive the Renegade league at CW focuses on Renegade less than it could just because the same website has leagues for other games.

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		[+TRPM+] VS {WG} By: trooprm02 on Sat, 04 November 2006 19:46
		Re: [+TRPM+] VS {WG} By: jschultz9 on Sat, 04 November 2006 20:13
		Re: [+TRPM+] VS {WG} By: Ryu on Sat, 04 November 2006 22:50
		Re: [+TRPM+] VS {WG} By: jschultz9 on Sun, 05 November 2006 00:19
		Re: [+TRPM+] VS {WG} By: jschultz9 on Sun, 05 November 2006 02:21
		Re: [+TRPM+] VS {WG} By: Sniper_De7 on Sun, 05 November 2006 04:39
		Re: [+TRPM+] VS {WG} By: MexPirate on Sun, 05 November 2006 06:46
		Re: [+TRPM+] VS {WG} By: MrWiggles on Sun, 05 November 2006 09:12
		Re: [+TRPM+] VS {WG} By: jschultz9 on Sun, 05 November 2006 10:47
		Re: [+TRPM+] VS {WG} By: Tiesto on Sun, 05 November 2006 11:10
		Re: [+TRPM+] VS {WG} By: jschultz9 on Sun, 05 November 2006 11:17
		Re: [+TRPM+] VS {WG} By: Ryu on Sun, 05 November 2006 12:50
		Re: [+TRPM+] VS {WG} By: jschultz9 on Sun, 05 November 2006 14:09
		Re: [+TRPM+] VS {WG} By: Ryu on Sun, 05 November 2006 14:16
		Re: [+TRPM+] VS {WG} By: trooprm02 on Sun, 05 November 2006 14:29
		Re: [+TRPM+] VS {WG} By: jschultz9 on Sun, 05 November 2006 14:42
		Re: [+TRPM+] VS {WG} By: Tunaman on Sun, 05 November 2006 15:14
		Re: [+TRPM+] VS {WG} By: jschultz9 on Sun, 05 November 2006 15:53
		Re: [+TRPM+] VS {WG} By: Tunaman on Mon, 06 November 2006 00:03
		Re: [+TRPM+] VS {WG} By: Spoony on Sun, 12 November 2006 09:06
		Re: [+TRPM+] VS {WG} By: MrWiggles on Sun, 05 November 2006 16:08
		Re: [+TRPM+] VS {WG} By: jschultz9 on Sun, 05 November 2006 16:31
		Re: [+TRPM+] VS {WG} By: MrWiggles on Sun, 05 November 2006 16:44
		Re: [+TRPM+] VS {WG} By: Spoony on Sun, 05 November 2006 16:49
		Re: [+TRPM+] VS {WG} By: Spoony on Mon, 06 November 2006 01:12
		Re: [+TRPM+] VS {WG} By: jschultz9 on Sun, 05 November 2006 17:08
		Re: [+TRPM+] VS {WG} By: Sniper_De7 on Sun, 05 November 2006 17:39
		Re: [+TRPM+] VS {WG} By: jschultz9 on Sun, 05 November 2006 18:15
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		Re: [+TRPM+] VS {WG} By: trooprm02 on Sun, 05 November 2006 18:27
		Re: [+TRPM+] VS {WG} By: jschultz9 on Sun, 05 November 2006 18:30
		Re: [+TRPM+] VS {WG} By: trooprm02 on Mon, 06 November 2006 08:04
		Re: [+TRPM+] VS {WG} By: MrWiggles on Mon, 06 November 2006 12:05
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		Re: [+TRPM+] VS {WG} By: trooprm02 on Mon, 06 November 2006 13:31
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		Re: [+TRPM+] VS {WG} By: Spoony on Mon, 06 November 2006 15:54
		Re: [+TRPM+] VS {WG} By: Spoony on Tue, 07 November 2006 06:05
		Re: [+TRPM+] VS {WG} By: Spoony on Thu, 09 November 2006 23:36
		Re: [+TRPM+] VS {WG} By: MexPirate on Mon, 06 November 2006 05:31
		Re: [+TRPM+] VS {WG} By: MrWiggles on Mon, 06 November 2006 12:02
		Re: [+TRPM+] VS {WG} By: MrWiggles on Mon, 06 November 2006 15:46
		Re: [+TRPM+] VS {WG} By: fl00d3d on Mon, 06 November 2006 21:31
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		Re: [+TRPM+] VS {WG} By: Jimbo27 on Mon, 06 November 2006 23:08
		Re: [+TRPM+] VS {WG} By: trooprm02 on Tue, 07 November 2006 08:37
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		Re: [+TRPM+] VS {WG} By: trooprm02 on Tue, 07 November 2006 13:08
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		Re: [+TRPM+] VS {WG} By: Atomicway on Tue, 07 November 2006 19:38
		Re: [+TRPM+] VS {WG} By: DaN#GW on Tue, 07 November 2006 10:28
		Re: [+TRPM+] VS {WG} By: jschultz9 on Tue, 07 November 2006 20:18
		Re: [+TRPM+] VS {WG} By: MrWiggles on Tue, 07 November 2006 22:20
		Re: [+TRPM+] VS {WG} By: jschultz9 on Wed, 08 November 2006 06:23
		Re: [+TRPM+] VS {WG} By: MrWiggles on Wed, 08 November 2006 11:01
		Re: [+TRPM+] VS {WG} By: MexPirate on Sun, 12 November 2006 07:43
		Re: [+TRPM+] VS {WG} By: Goztow on Wed, 08 November 2006 07:13
		Re: [+TRPM+] VS {WG} By: trooprm02 on Wed, 08 November 2006 08:18
		Re: [+TRPM+] VS {WG} By: Tiesto on Wed, 08 November 2006 12:04
		Re: [+TRPM+] VS {WG} By: fl00d3d on Wed, 08 November 2006 12:33
		Re: [+TRPM+] VS {WG} By: trooprm02 on Wed, 08 November 2006 13:35
		Re: [+TRPM+] VS {WG} By: Spoony on Wed, 08 November 2006 14:33
		Re: [+TRPM+] VS {WG} By: trooprm02 on Wed, 08 November 2006 16:38
		Re: [+TRPM+] VS {WG} By: Spoony on Thu, 09 November 2006 01:56
		Re: [+TRPM+] VS {WG} By: jschultz9 on Wed, 08 November 2006 16:04
		Re: [+TRPM+] VS {WG} By: mrpirate on Wed, 08 November 2006 18:00
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		Re: [+TRPM+] VS {WG} By: jschultz9 on Sat, 11 November 2006 23:27
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