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Re: anyone looking to rent server PLEASE READ!!! [message #223729 is a reply to message #222790] Sat, 30 September 2006 13:16 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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...Yeah because you can magically sniff client info out when you're not the server...


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...plaintext chat protocol...
That is where the problem starts.

You do not have to be on any server to sniff out its traffic. You simply have to be on its network segment. Hook your computer up to a hub and plug another computer into it -- then sniff out port 6667 on it and see what you come up with. Wink And for the record, not even SSL is secure anymore. Additionally, IRC likes to wrap up all kinds of information about its clients and hand them out to any users by default (ie. whois).

IRC6 http://www.irc.org/irc6.html I never claimed it was in the TCP stack. I'm not confused. Ironically I was going to ask you to post your seven layers of the model, but then I thought "any numbnut can google information". Again, I'm not saying you don't know what you're talking about -- but you're really going off the deep end insisting that IRC isn't insecure. And for the record, I never once said that the other protocols were any more/less secure. Though I do think that IRC has no place on a secure network. Other protocols have more control information and well-established signatures that can be filtered by IDS's. IRC does, too, but as you've pointed out yourself it is a different kind of protocol.

You went through the trouble of listing out your certifications which apparently makes you a resident expert of security. So tell me, how many servers have you hacked? How many times have you exploited the IRC protocol? How many times have you done 'penetration testing' professionally?
 
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