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Re: Jesus [message #215658 is a reply to message #215619] Sun, 27 August 2006 18:43 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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Dover wrote on Sun, 27 August 2006 15:14


If you'll notice, I said that history has proved these things to be true. While I may not be an expert on the way radio waves are supposed to function, I know that when I turn on my radio and tune to a certain frequency, I hear my favorite radio station. I know this, because it has happened every time I turn it on, without fail.


But why (or how) does the box the sound come out of get that sound?

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The same with the other things. I know electricity exists, because when I flip the switch in my room a light comes on. Is that switch connected to magic? Are my parents getting a monthly Magic bill?


They could be. Can you prove that electricity is what we are told it is?

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I don't visually survey my hard drive when I install Renegade on it, but I know it's been installed and by whatever means, Renegade's data has been stored on my hard drive. I don't pretend to be an expert in any of these things (Especially the electron microscopes and DNA testing), but I believe they work, because up until now they've worked.


It has been installed, but how is it stored?

They work the way they've worked, yes. But that is not what I'm arguing. I'm arguing that you don't know HOW/WHY they work the way they do. You simply choose to believe what you are told, seemingly on the principle that it does what they say it does.

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God is a different story. God moves in mysterious ways. God helps those whom he/she chooses. You cannot compare the two at all. All these (modern) technologies that you listed are in measureable quantities and above all, they're consistant. These are two qualities that religions as a whole lack.


Who says God has no "measurable quantities"? (though that would be the wrong term, after all, even humans have no "measurable quantities"). Perhaps we just haven't discovered the means to "measure" him.

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So is what I'm saying that I'll become a believer when someone can bottle God? Yes. Not when I touch it, or I see it, or I feel it, but when you can put it in a labratory and examine it and pick it apart. The day preists and other religious leaders stop shrugging their shoulders whenever you ask them something that isn't a default bible-answered question is the day I become a holy-roller.


So, are you saying that because the means to "measure" it are not currently available, you say it does not exist? (Careful how you answer that)

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If you cannot witness the book that is filled with words, then HOW CAN IT TELL YOU HIS NAME WAS JESUS? therefore what you say and see is a lie, or a made up phalacy. It is but a dream, a story, its but a thought in your interpretation of a misconceived idea.



Err... witness the book? All I have to do is pick it up and read it to tell you that his name was Jesus...

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Have you looked up, yet again "Joshua Of NaZareth" or are you scared to read and see both sides of the coin/story?


err.. perhaps you can direct me to a specific link? After 10 pages on Google, all I found was that it's another name for Jesus. I fail to see what that has to do with the resurrection (or lack thereof) of someone.
 
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