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Re: Fraud In Iraq? Impossible. [message #205581 is a reply to message #205453]

Mon, 26 June 2006 17:51

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MadDave wrote on Mon, 26 June 2006 03:07

You do raise some good points o-o

Anyone that actually cares about issues such as this can easily discuss them with others (republican or democrat) and either agree with each others opinions or agree to disagree.

The problem with SFE and the text he quotes from sources like salon.com is that they are 100% anti-Republican, not anti-policy. They engage in such blatant smear campaigns that it boggles my mind how anyone can read the stuff they smear as news and not walk away simply rolling their eyes.

In their mind, if Bush did it, it was wrong. If republicans control congress, then they're just out to screw the American people and make their corporate buddies richer. Anything and everything that they can take hold of, they'll spin it up just a little and try to convince as many people they can as to why we should vote Democrat next time.

I don't disagree with a lot of the stuff that folks like SFE post. A lot of it does need to get out in the open, and if it's a scandal, lets uncover it and make it right. But it isn't a scandal just because a Republican was involved, which is what they would like you to believe, Dem's have their fair share too.

For someone to claim that we are not "discussing the issues" when they are so obviously one-sided and closed minded is so hypocritical it is beyond comprehension. Even if he agreed to my post above, and couldn't back up his side of the argument at all, he would simply walk away and wait until the next big thing he can post and try to bash Republicans or Bush again. He'll never admit that he's wrong, or jumped to conclusions, or took something out of context; so most of us are way beyond cordial conversations with him.

If these items originally posted are indeed true, have faith in the system.. it'll all come out in time; things have a way of working themselves out. I remember a conversation on my forums a few years back from another extreme liberal. They were ranting and raving about how all these big bankrupt executives were in bed with Bush, how corrupt Bush was, and that it was the Bush administrations fault that they were all getting off scott free. How many of them have now been found guilty and sent to prison? Shit takes time to make it through the system, and honestly, would you want it any other way? Innocent until proven guilty, we set it up that way for a reason. Assumptions based on hatred for a party are not proof of guilt.

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		Fraud In Iraq? Impossible. By: SuperFlyingEngi on Tue, 20 June 2006 12:55
		Re: Fraud In Iraq? Impossible. By: Aircraftkiller on Tue, 20 June 2006 13:15
		Re: Fraud In Iraq? Impossible. By: Goztow on Tue, 20 June 2006 23:51
		Re: Fraud In Iraq? Impossible. By: Aircraftkiller on Wed, 21 June 2006 10:50
		Re: Fraud In Iraq? Impossible. By: Aircraftkiller on Thu, 22 June 2006 11:49
		Re: Fraud In Iraq? Impossible. By: OWA on Thu, 22 June 2006 12:18
		Re: Fraud In Iraq? Impossible. By: icedog90 on Fri, 23 June 2006 14:30
		Re: Fraud In Iraq? Impossible. By: DarkDemin on Wed, 21 June 2006 05:52
		Re: Fraud In Iraq? Impossible. By: SuperFlyingEngi on Wed, 21 June 2006 09:50
		Re: Fraud In Iraq? Impossible. By: IronWarrior on Wed, 21 June 2006 11:34
		Re: Fraud In Iraq? Impossible. By: SuperFlyingEngi on Wed, 21 June 2006 11:49
		Re: Fraud In Iraq? Impossible. By: OWA on Wed, 21 June 2006 14:34
		Re: Fraud In Iraq? Impossible. By: PlastoJoe on Wed, 21 June 2006 15:14
		Re: Fraud In Iraq? Impossible. By: DarkDemin on Wed, 21 June 2006 14:36
		Re: Fraud In Iraq? Impossible. By: SuperFlyingEngi on Wed, 21 June 2006 15:44
		Re: Fraud In Iraq? Impossible. By: DarkDemin on Wed, 21 June 2006 15:54
		Re: Fraud In Iraq? Impossible. By: SuperFlyingEngi on Wed, 21 June 2006 17:25
		Re: Fraud In Iraq? Impossible. By: DarkDemin on Thu, 22 June 2006 04:55
		Re: Fraud In Iraq? Impossible. By: SuperFlyingEngi on Thu, 22 June 2006 08:32
		Re: Fraud In Iraq? Impossible. By: DarkDemin on Thu, 22 June 2006 09:21
		Re: Fraud In Iraq? Impossible. By: SuperFlyingEngi on Thu, 22 June 2006 10:49
		Re: Fraud In Iraq? Impossible. By: DarkDemin on Thu, 22 June 2006 10:59
		Re: Fraud In Iraq? Impossible. By: SuperFlyingEngi on Thu, 22 June 2006 11:02
		Re: Fraud In Iraq? Impossible. By: MadDave on Thu, 22 June 2006 17:18
		Re: Fraud In Iraq? Impossible. By: cheesesoda on Thu, 22 June 2006 17:47
		Re: Fraud In Iraq? Impossible. By: MadDave on Fri, 23 June 2006 21:14
		Re: Fraud In Iraq? Impossible. By: PlastoJoe on Sun, 25 June 2006 17:59
		Re: Fraud In Iraq? Impossible. By: DarkDemin on Thu, 22 June 2006 19:03
		Re: Fraud In Iraq? Impossible. By: OWA on Fri, 23 June 2006 11:52
		Re: Fraud In Iraq? Impossible. By: Aprime on Fri, 23 June 2006 17:32
		Re: Fraud In Iraq? Impossible. By: Sniper_De7 on Sat, 24 June 2006 07:24
		Re: Fraud In Iraq? Impossible. By: SuperFlyingEngi on Sat, 24 June 2006 09:24
		Re: Fraud In Iraq? Impossible. By: DarkDemin on Sat, 24 June 2006 09:56
		Re: Fraud In Iraq? Impossible. By: OWA on Sat, 24 June 2006 16:34
		Re: Fraud In Iraq? Impossible. By: SuperFlyingEngi on Mon, 26 June 2006 09:23
		Re: Fraud In Iraq? Impossible. By: PlastoJoe on Mon, 26 June 2006 17:17
		Re: Fraud In Iraq? Impossible. By: MadDave on Sat, 24 June 2006 18:52
		Re: Fraud In Iraq? Impossible. By: cheesesoda on Sat, 24 June 2006 19:08
		Re: Fraud In Iraq? Impossible. By: MadDave on Sat, 24 June 2006 19:56
		Re: Fraud In Iraq? Impossible. By: cheesesoda on Sat, 24 June 2006 20:21
		Re: Fraud In Iraq? Impossible. By: msgtpain on Sat, 24 June 2006 22:05
		Re: Fraud In Iraq? Impossible. By: MadDave on Sun, 25 June 2006 17:18
		Re: Fraud In Iraq? Impossible. By: cheesesoda on Sun, 25 June 2006 17:20
		Re: Fraud In Iraq? Impossible. By: msgtpain on Sun, 25 June 2006 18:24
		Re: Fraud In Iraq? Impossible. By: MadDave on Mon, 26 June 2006 00:07
		Re: Fraud In Iraq? Impossible. By: OWA on Mon, 26 June 2006 05:43
		Re: Fraud In Iraq? Impossible. By: msgtpain on Mon, 26 June 2006 17:51
		Re: Fraud In Iraq? Impossible. By: Doitle on Mon, 26 June 2006 17:35
		Re: Fraud In Iraq? Impossible. By: icedog90 on Mon, 26 June 2006 18:54
		Re: Fraud In Iraq? Impossible. By: SuperFlyingEngi on Tue, 27 June 2006 09:20
		Re: Fraud In Iraq? Impossible. By: msgtpain on Tue, 27 June 2006 17:46
		Re: Fraud In Iraq? Impossible. By: DarkDemin on Tue, 27 June 2006 19:10
		Re: Fraud In Iraq? Impossible. By: Doitle on Tue, 27 June 2006 23:40
		Re: Fraud In Iraq? Impossible. By: DarkDemin on Wed, 28 June 2006 07:50
		Re: Fraud In Iraq? Impossible. By: SuperFlyingEngi on Wed, 28 June 2006 09:43
		Re: Fraud In Iraq? Impossible. By: msgtpain on Wed, 28 June 2006 16:39
		Re: Fraud In Iraq? Impossible. By: Aircraftkiller on Wed, 28 June 2006 11:53
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		Re: Fraud In Iraq? Impossible. By: msgtpain on Wed, 28 June 2006 20:16
		Re: Fraud In Iraq? Impossible. By: Fabian on Thu, 29 June 2006 10:55
		Re: Fraud In Iraq? Impossible. By: icedog90 on Thu, 29 June 2006 22:15
		Re: Fraud In Iraq? Impossible. By: cheesesoda on Thu, 29 June 2006 13:16
		Re: Fraud In Iraq? Impossible. By: Fabian on Fri, 30 June 2006 06:16
		Re: Fraud In Iraq? Impossible. By: Berkut on Fri, 30 June 2006 08:53
		Re: Fraud In Iraq? Impossible. By: icedog90 on Fri, 30 June 2006 23:45
		Re: Fraud In Iraq? Impossible. By: Fabian on Sat, 01 July 2006 08:50
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		Re: Fraud In Iraq? Impossible. By: Aircraftkiller on Fri, 07 July 2006 14:25
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		Re: Fraud In Iraq? Impossible. By: Aircraftkiller on Mon, 10 July 2006 13:20
		Re: Fraud In Iraq? Impossible. By: Aprime on Mon, 10 July 2006 13:35
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