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Re: Protests over a cartoon... wtf. [message #201415 is a reply to message #188804] Mon, 29 May 2006 05:09 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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Scientific explanaitions must abide by the laws of physics to be considered, however, everybody can claim that he has spoken to God. It's nothing but an empty statement that everybody can say. I would say there is a difference between those two types of "evidence". One is intuition and the other is real evidence.



Everybody can claim they "know" molecules exist. However, I doubt that even you have seen a molecule with your naked eye. It's nothing but an empty statement that everyone can say. It's only considered "intuition" by you, because you don't recognize the evidence, as evidence.

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Religious texts, that all disagree with each other and were written by men, something everybody can do (see book of mormon).


Have you ever studied in the field of philosophy? Every single book out there contradicts another one in some form or another, and this field is given much more credit than even some scientific fields.

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Where exactly are you going here? Are you claiming that a Big Bang never happened or that "God" started the Big Bang?



Oh, I believe that the Big Bang occurred, but can you prove that "God" had no hand in it?

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How is that a contradiction? Before the experiment, there wasn't any proof that it could have happened that way, now there is. The next step is proving that it did. It was proven that life can start from chemicals...how is that a contradiction?



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Science has proven how life here started and evolved.

So I counter with a request for this proof. You then come up with:
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Life can start through chemical reactions which has been done in an experiment...

So I make mention of how that doesn't prove how we got here, simply that it's one way life can begin.
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proves how life can start out of the chemicals the world was made of,


There is the contradiction, with the back story. Once again, you can not Prove this is how we got here, simply that a chemical reaction is one possibility. That is not proof.

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that's extremely far-fetched especially considering that we've found a much more plausible way.


Ah, but plausible does not equate to definitive.

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you're assuming as well that the same rules that apply to the universe apply to a single planet inside the universe...


Any reason why it shouldn't? Both are based on the "rules" of physics (I wonder how those rules developed, anyways), so why should one be exempt? Oh yes, so that it can fit in the THEORY of how the universe began.

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