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Re: I need some advice [message #197131 is a reply to message #197098]

Thu, 20 April 2006 12:37

Kanezor
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Crimson wrote on Thu, 20 April 2006 10:59

Kanezor wrote on Thu, 20 April 2006 08:23

I wouldn't consider having aliases as an offense. But using the aliases to get around set laws (eg, bans) is, though not as bad as a DoS attack. But really, if person 'A' is paying for the server, then what right do you have to say whether or not he can be an admin?

Since "A" is the attacker, we decided to ban "A" from ever having a server on XWIS. I only allowed the "company" to have a server on XWIS again because they SAID they got rid of him. If he's still an admin and still calling the shots, then he has a server on XWIS in spite of the punishment set forth. I never revoked the ban on this individual.

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You do have every right to prevent him from attacking your own server(s). Will an XWIS ban really prevent that? Has he attacked only servers that are listed on XWIS, or has he also attacked servers listed exclusively on GSA as well?

The ban is not to prevent him from attacking. The ban is a removal of privileges as punishment for said attacks. I would sooner have more success paying someone to inflict physical harm on him than I could actually get the law against him. Therefore, this is an punishment I *can* inflict that teaches him that such acts are not to be tolerated.

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In all, the question isn't whether or not you should keep the ban. If he has broken a rule to connect to XWIS, then you follow Olaf's judgement (and since (as far as I know) there's an agreement between Olaf and yourself to allow you to moderate the Renegade part of XWIS, your own judgement). If he repeatedly breaks XWIS' rules, then you take it up with EA.

Yes, it IS in fact against XWIS rules to flood other players and servers. That is why Olaf agreed to the original ban.

All of the above warrants an extended ban, if not a lifelong one. It is rather sad that you have to ban their whole server to get rid of the one person, though.

Crimson wrote on Thu, 20 April 2006 10:59

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How do you know that if you ban his server's IP from XWIS, that he won't just lease a different subnet from his server's host, or that he won't even change hosts completely?

1) He's not very bright.
2) The effort it takes him to get a new IP is a lot more than the effort it takes me to add his new IP to his existing ban.

Remember that if he changes to a different host which hosts several game servers behind a single IP, then you would end up banning all of those game servers. That is, if he isn't already using such a host.

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