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Re: Server owners, or servers in general... [message #196040 is a reply to message #196029]

Thu, 13 April 2006 07:21

Kanezor
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Dover wrote on Thu, 13 April 2006 02:05

I fail to see where the ownership begins. Perhaps I'm ignorant because I don't have a server, but all you really own is the machine. Since the cussing is taking place in "CyberSpace", wherever that is, I'm assuming you have no juristicion over it. A server owner has juristicion over

And even if you all are right, I think "swearing" is perhaps the weakest reason to kick anybody ever. If I'm going to be punished for that, I'd like to be lied to and told it's for something else, just to save me the trouble of going into an angry rage.

The !kick and !ban commands were made to be used against cheaters, not the foul-mouthed.

How old are you? You obviously haven't grasped the concept of ownership. As msgtpain pointed out very clearly, the server is like a restaurant. Instead of getting served food, though, you get served a game of C&C Renegade. If you start swearing in the restaurant, you will get kicked out. If you continue to swear, the restaurant can file a slew of charges against you, including but not limited to (depending on your area) verbal abuse/assault and trespassing. Likewise, if you continue to use vulgar language in servers which do not allow it, you can be banned from the server.

If you don't like it, then go purchase your own restaurant. It's the exact same way just about everywhere on the internet. If you get on AOL and join a public chat room and start swearing, AOL will kick you. It's AOL's service that is providing the chat room, thus it is AOL's restaurant, thus AOL can kick you from the chatroom.

If you start sending vulgar emails to a mailing list, you will get kicked off of the mailing list.

The point of the matter is, whether or not you think swearing is a right or a priviledge, it is ultimately not up to you.

As for your "CyberSpace" argument, that point is completely moot. C&C Renegade requires a server machine to run on. All of your chat goes through this machine before being sent to anyone else. Thus, if the server owner doesn't like what you are saying on that machine, they can kick you from that machine.

Think of CyberSpace as the ocean, and servers as a port. If you violate the rules of the port, you will be removed from that port. You can still dock at other ports, though. The port is free to make up whatever rules they like, and you must obey them or face consequences.

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		Server owners, or servers in general... By: $c0p3 on Tue, 14 March 2006 20:18
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