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Re: Server owners, or servers in general... [message #193155 is a reply to message #193122] Fri, 17 March 2006 21:16 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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Sniper_De7 wrote on Fri, 17 March 2006 12:08

There's no *need* for a lot of things. How this figures in, you can explain to me. I don't see anythign wrong with dying and saying, "fuck" after you did something stupid and died for it. You're expressing it using a swear word. I don't feel I'm a e-badass that gets his jollies from saying it. I don't think anyone really feels they're "cool" for swearing. I've heard that so many times and it makes me sick. I've never, once, in my entire life so far, ever thought that swearing suddenly makes me cool and awesome.


Then why do you take the time to “type” it ensure that everyone else on the server knows that you wanted to swear right then? If you die, yell fuck at your monitor and keep playing, if you type it out.. it’s because the actual frustration you are feeling just doesn’t seem validated unless you share it with everyone else.

Sniper_De7 wrote on Fri, 17 March 2006 12:08

Kid's swear all the time. Maybe not around their parents, but they do. They get away with it a lot. I'd bargain that it's way more than servers on renegade


They usually don’t swear around their parents, because no matter how much you would like to argue it, swearing truly is offensive to most people. Their parents know that and have taught them that it is inappropriate to swear in front of others, especially others that you don’t know or who aren’t close friends. I’m a parent, and most of my other admins were/are parents whos kids actually sat down beside them and played the game for fun. WE decided (as parents) that we were going to BE parents and make sure OUR kids were not overly influenced or unnecessarily exposed to swearing. And, because it was OUR server that YOU were all guests on, that’s our right.. We didn’t make you play there, and we sure as hell weren’t trying to force our values on YOU.

Sniper_De7 wrote on Fri, 17 March 2006 12:08

Violence and swearing go hand in hand. If your kid is able to accept people blowing each other's heads off, the rating system also accepts that they are able to accept bad language. TEEN = SWEARING/VIOLENCE not FLUFFY BUNNIES WITH PINK HATS.


In my opinion, that’s a cop-out. Violence and swearing do not go hand-in-hand. If you’re a violent person, you probably swear, but if you swear, you are not most likely violent. Someone that learns it’s “okay” to swear at leisure, will most likely simulate that behavior in the world. If everyone around them swears, it will become second nature. You can’t say the same about “blowing someone’s head off”… Simulated, animated violence is taken at face value; I don’t know too many people who play that are offended or have their behavior molded because of it. Can you say the same about having people tell you to “fuck off, asshole”. The violence is a part of the game, the swearing is a direct character attack and actually CREATES true hostility and possibly REAL violence.

Sniper_De7 wrote on Fri, 17 March 2006 12:08

owning a server does not make it right to do things that are wrong. Thus, abusing the powers capable (this includes setting senseless rules, letting cheaters roam free if they so wish to desire, or using the !kill command or other various wrong acts. Just because they own the server none of this makes it right. Sure, they can do it, which I've already stated and has been stated so many times, but it does not make it OK.


Are we talking about an opinion here? Because, for something to be factually wrong, there must be some sort of basis, writing, guide, etc., of which we can all refer to. Do you have that “guide” which states the powers of a server owner do not include limiting swearing on their server? I didn’t think so.

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