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Re: Server owners, or servers in general... [message #193122 is a reply to message #192863] Fri, 17 March 2006 10:08 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
Sniper_De7 is currently offline  Sniper_De7
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Lets say we were to ban alchohol. Are you saying you would still get alchol even if it was illegal and drink it?
If thats the case. Your an alcholholic.

Let's just stop here since after what I say all of that will become null and void. If you use weed are you a weed addict? Just because it becomes illegal doesn't mean you have problems. Not that I was bringing up drinking for this. I brought it up because it's similar in that, when there was a prohibition for alcohol, people sold and drank alcohol, even though it was illegal. Similarily, people on a no-swearing server do let out swear words.
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Swearing: There is no need for it, especially in video games.
There's no *need* for a lot of things. How this figures in, you can explain to me. I don't see anythign wrong with dying and saying, "fuck" after you did something stupid and died for it. You're expressing it using a swear word. I don't feel I'm a e-badass that gets his jollies from saying it. I don't think anyone really feels they're "cool" for swearing. I've heard that so many times and it makes me sick. I've never, once, in my entire life so far, ever thought that swearing suddenly makes me cool and awesome.

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They pick it up from so called "adults" who swears in game.

Swearing from "adults" never influenced me to swear.
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Kids swear in game alot more than they do in RL because they can get away with it.
Kid's swear all the time. Maybe not around their parents, but they do. They get away with it a lot. I'd bargain that it's way more than servers on renegade

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I happen to like servers with no swearing policies. It shows that at least some people care for the youth. Here where I live you can be 13 and play this game. I don't know about you but I didn't swear when I was 13. When I was 13 and I was aruound swearing my other 13 y\o cousin would say "lets get out of this nonsense swearing". Its completly fine if you let your kids play this game, but as long as there of legal age. But just because its okay for them to play doesn't mean its okay for them to be around swearing.
If a person would have asked me when I was 13 if it was OK to allow teen rated violence (swearing, blood, etc) in a teen-rated game. I would have said it was perfectly normal. and yes, it does mean its okay for a teenager to be around swearing if you buy them a game that is teen rated and the teen is of legal age. Violence and swearing go hand in hand. If your kid is able to accept people blowing eachother's heads off, the rating system also accepts that they are able to accept bad language. TEEN = SWEARING/VIOLENCE not FLUFFY BUNNIES WITH PINK HATS.

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Those who think its okay to swear in a game when they know there are young teens in it, show no respect and think about nobody but themselves.

No... I assume any person who has renegade is capable to withstand bad language when the soul purpose of the game is killing the enemy by any means necessary. This includes shooting their face with tank shells and other various weapons. This is a safe assumption because either
A.) They are a teen and bought the game.
B.) Their parents think their children is capable of distinguishing a virtual world to a real world and bought them the game so they can enjoy it(knowing full well that there would be violence in it)

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Its perfectly ok for a server owner to ban swearing. Its his server and its his choice.
owning a server does not make it right to do things that are wrong. Thus, abusing the powers capable (this includes setting senseless rules, letting cheaters roam free if they so wish to desire, or using the !kill command or other various wrong acts. Just because they own the server none of this makes it right. Sure, they can do it, which I've already stated and has been stated so many times, but it does not make it OK.

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There is nothing wrong with a little censorship, (a little?) especially when whether it exists or not could affect our youth.
Like I said, if you really think a teenager can't accept the fact that violent games have swearing. then violent games are not suitable for that teenager. Online swearing means a lot less when you hear it at your school and your friends are saying it. The fact that someone might call me an asshole and he lives xxxx miles away from me, means so little to me. Now, have a person coming up to you when you're 10 years old and some kid comes on the playground and calls you it - it'll mean a lot more.


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