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Re: Server owners, or servers in general... [message #193110 is a reply to message #192863] Fri, 17 March 2006 07:42 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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genetix wrote on Thu, 16 March 2006 23:02


I'm an administrator for a BF2 64 player ranked server. We promote a semi swear free community and everyone loves it. Sure we aren't really strict on swearing but we get a lot of compliments about it. You would be amazed at how many people under the age of 15 play war games. I simply consider it respect. Probably why last time I check our BF2 server was ranked in the top 5.


You basically just said that your server allows swearing and the people adore you for it.

I mean every server that allows semi swearing (as you call it, I mean most or all that I've ever been that allows swearing, doesn't allow anything too extreme - How many people have I seen go beyond that point and get kicked? None what-so-ever that I can recall. That said, obviously people don't really ever get out of hand. It's just a senseless rule to have, and that's the argument here. If all servers had no swearing would you say to quit the game? If you're going to argue, at least argue whether or not it's a senseless rule. As far as I can tell, no one really ever abuses it to the level of absurdity. The game is meant for teens, meaning by this age, children would have and are comfortable around swear words and violence (this is where parenting comes in and teaching your children about violence)

We all already know server owners get to do what they want. If they want to be asshats and ban/kick people who are better than them, then that's their perogative. None of this makes something right. So if you're going to argue that a server owner can do whatever he wants with his server, it holds no bearing on making it right. It's just forcing his opinion to everyone else.

Trying to ban swearing is a futile attempt to rid seeing swearing elsewhere. You'll find it in school (in case where you missed the last 6+ grades of your school, kids are using swear words) You'll find it in the street. You'll find swearing practically everywhere, and trying helplessly to avoid it is not the solution.

it's not like servers with no swearing ever not see swearing. You'll still see people swear so that throws the whole "my kid plays this game" Because people either.
A) Don't know the rules.
B) Don't give a damn about rules they believe are pointless
C) Purposely break rules

Banning swearing, is like banning alcohol in that there's still going to be people who swear, and there always will be. If you really don't want your child to see swearing.. you should really not let them play games online. That makes more sense to me than any other solution.


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