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Re: The 5 Phases of RenGuard users [message #184355 is a reply to message #184339] Sat, 31 December 2005 19:15 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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Sniper_De7 wrote on Sat, 31 December 2005 17:26

ben5015se wrote on Sat, 31 December 2005 17:42

light wrote on Sat, 31 December 2005 16:36



I play in servers I mod/admin as much as possible. The others I try to know the hosts/admins. Failing that, I can play in other servers and show people that non-RG players don't all cheat.


its funny becouse its true, well ..there are a couple of non rg users that cheat, but iv only seen one person and that was on my cnr server..

but i bet there are more cheaters bypassing rengaurd then there are not using rengaurd


Dead wrong. I've seen at LEAST 5 cheaters on non-rg servers in the past week and they all didn't have renguard. Number of cheaters I've seen using Renguard in the past 2 months? 0. I doubt you've seen over 1 person using renguard that was cheating. Not that i really know your judgement on cheating either; you could think i was cheating when i wasn't. I've done some pretty messed up things that could easily pass as what a cheater can do (ie pistoling a gdi soldier 4x in a row when he's dodging) it's only logic that there would be more people cheating without RG than people with it.

Anyways, a moderator would still ask you "why you don't install renguard" and since you have no real reason not to, it look suspiciuos since you have absolutely nothing to lose by getting it. I still don't see why not using RG helps moderators check people that are running RG so that's not an excuse to not use RG. I mean the same moderators that test when you don't have RG, how do you know they wouldn't when you're not using renguard.. it would be two seperate times. not that it matters since you don't even have renguard installed so you don't know if moderators would check you if you had renguard installed. Pretty much most of the servers i've all been tested and i've had renguard. So to say that moderators never check rg users is wrong. In fact.. most, if not, all cases where a person said i was cheating i was tested.



Counter Example #1: Crazy posted a screenshot (somewhere) that showed him wall hacking (successfully, i might add) and running RG...hint hint...if someone writes a working aimbot...there goes Renny...unless RG is extended to catch aimbots!
P.S. I have tested RG users every now and then (usually if RG is acting funny though)
P.P.S. There are SERVERS which can't run RG (our clan has no reason to change to BRenBot from our highly customized version of BR.NET and can't run the Standalone SSC because it crashes our Ren server!)

Also, there is no substitute for good moderation.


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