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Re: The 5 Phases of RenGuard users [message #184226 is a reply to message #184217] Fri, 30 December 2005 20:13 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
Sniper_De7 is currently offline  Sniper_De7
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No, I wouldn't forcerg them. I would RG them. If I knew they were using RG I would be less worried about their cheating but still be cautious; if they weren't I'd try to see more into it and be more cautious (ie looking at my health and seeing if they were doing shady damage)

A moderator SHOULD look to see if you have RG first. Of course there are exceptions. A moderator banned me before after i had RG and i tested well and i gave screenshots (I don't know what else you can ask for unless you want my urine, too)

Look I'm not saying people abuse the forcerg command because they do. If a person thinks you cheat he'll be intent on believing it. So being votekicked or whatever else is the same thing. It can be abused. Of course it'd be stupid to say it's bad to have votekick since it's a good tool if there is no moderators online (in fact it's really the only defence; unless it's half-rg server, which forcerg'ing would be a good defence just as well

Look a person who is new to the game would seem suspicious to them that a person who is so much better than them (It's hard for new guys to recognize that players can get that much better than them and do things they didn't KNOW were possible [yes, this falls under the 3+ headshots in a row]) It only really makes it seem more suspicious that a person would not install renguard when there's no reason not to for them. Don't you agree with that? Of course there's no 100%s with anything so to argue that it's not perfect is futile. It's why people agree to testing when they aren't cheating. It's why they take screenshots. and guess what? it's the same reason i use renguard. I've got nothing to hide, so why does it matter to me? you?

Look I'm not saying RG isn't full proof. It serves as reassurance to moderators and players alike that you'd take a step to install it. A screenshot isn't full proof either but you don't complain, do you? Just because it isn't full proof doesn't mean than it loses its point to have it done. Just the same "testing" isn't always full proof either. When you do these things it servers as nothing but reassurance for the moderators that you don't cheat. If 1 out 100 renguard users are using bypasses and cheats then what do you think the figure on how many who are using cheats and not using RG?
More than 1, that's for sure. So it's saying it's more possible for a guy to be cheating when not using RG (duh) than using it. So do us all the favour and install it


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