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Re: Anyone here smoke? [message #175915 is a reply to message #175776]

Sat, 22 October 2005 12:18

Fabian
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Javaxcx wrote on Fri, 21 October 2005 18:43

SEAL wrote on Fri, 21 October 2005 17:57

I don't have nearly enough time to comment on all that bullshit. Just goes to show you that you really don't know what you're talking about because you have no frame of reference. Who here is saying that people who do drugs ONLY do drugs? Do people who drink on the weekends at parties because they have social lives make them alcoholics? Fuck you. Many people who smoke pot also enjoy other, more wholesome parts of life like the stuff you mentioned.

Whoa, calm down there turbo. Your "frame of reference" argument was already crushed, and crushed severely. Yet you insist on it, why?

I'll make it plainly clear to you, because it seems that no amount of persuasion, logic, or reasoning with you will ever change your one dimensional, and ultimately (and justly) moronic view that what you're doing is all right. You commit willful selfish acts that have harmful (you can ask ANY, and I mean any physician why inhaling concentrated carbon-based elements directly into your lungs is harmful), habitual, and more over ILLEGAL activities to appease your silly concept of having a good time. Yet you also admit you don't need to take drugs to have a good time (or at least you implied it)... so why are you still doing drugs? The "because everyone else is doing it and I want to have a good time" argument is thin and subject to more rhetoric then you can cram into John Kerry's forehead.

Now if you're going to post, but don't have enough "time" to respond with sound reasoned arguments, then spare the universe your ad hominem and make time.

How was it crushed? Because you say so? Please. I had opinions about pot at points in my life when I hadn't smoked pot yet, and now, giving me two perspectives. You can only speak as someone who hasn't smoked. Psst: 2 > 1.

What I do is not selfish. I smoke in the privacy of my own home, and it doesn't effect anyone else.

Don't talk to me about ad hominem. Just look at the post I'm replying to...

I never said doing drugs wasn't unhealthy. My first post in this thread actually says the opposite. Why are you telling me this?

And lastly, we don't need a reason to do them, so there's really no point in attacking our "reason" for doing drugs. If you need a concrete and well developed reason for doing drugs, you're just showing me again that you don't know what you're talking about and don't understand recreational drug usage.

warranto wrote on Sat, 22 October 2005 01:17

Sorry, but if you need drugs to "make a day better", then there is something seriously wrong with you.

When you are high you think differently. That's a given fact. If it was 100% sure that nothing bad would ever happen when a person is high, then I would have no problem with it. However, that is not so. There have been people who have gotten high, and killed others. If it could be proven 100% that someone who smokes marijuana will not move on to a harder drug, then I'd be all for it. However, there are some that WILL move on to a harder drug after experiancing the effects of getting high.

So far, the only legitimate reason I've seen for the support of marijuana is that it's fun/interesting/whatever other word you want to use. This can be accomplished other ways, with a little work. Like discussing philosophy while your high? Go read some books and do it under sober conditions. I'm sure you'd get more out of it. Get high so that you can experiance things in a different way? Train yourself to do it without the assistance of drugs. It's actually not that hard.

I agree with your first paragraph.

The killing others is not the responsibility of pot. Pot does NOT make you (more) aggresive by itself.

The whole thing about people moving on to harder drugs is bullshit. This usually comes from studies that tell you people who have done hard drugs started with pot, but people who have done drugs have also eaten a bowl of cereal. They aren't cause and effect. Places with legalized or decriminalized pot laws show a slight increase in pot usage, and an actual decrease in hard drug usage. If there's a person who wants to try pot but is afraid it will lead to other things, than that person is a pussy (I think that's the scientific word for it).

And yes, you can have fun other ways. You can have fun NOT playing computer games too, so what's your point?

Warranto

I forget who, but someone once described to me what happens when they get high. He's able to see his grandmother climbing his leg (or something to that effect). Use your imagination and you can accomplish the same thing, just by putting yourself into that frame of mind, without the assistance of drugs. I can do it, so I'm sure it can't be that hard.

That is a reference from Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas. Something about seeing "your grandmother crawling up your leg with a large hunting knife in her mouth." And trust me, Hunter S. Thompson literally meant he SAW that. Your brain can't do that on its own unless you are mentally unstable.

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