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Re: Thanks Rockstar [message #175339 is a reply to message #164966] Tue, 18 October 2005 21:59 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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The fact is we dont need Sex and nudity to make a good game, and there IS nudity in GTA, i have seen porn pictures on it when i was at a party.


I have the whole series. I play the whole series regularly. Nowhere in any of the 5 games (soon to be 6) and one expansion is there nudity. No bare tits, no bare genitalia. Nude textures for the game's models DO NOT SHIP WITH THE GAME, NOR ARE THEY OFFERED BY ROCKSTAR AS OFFICIAL CONTENT. THE ONLY WAY TO HAVE NUDITY IN GTA IS TO DOWNLOAD CUSTOM, UNOFFICIAL TEXTURES MADE BY A THIRD PARTY. Even with the "Hot Coffee" content unlocked, there is no nudity- all you get is FULLY CLOTHED models dry-humping each other. The game you allegedly saw at the party you allegedly went to was MODIFIED. As in NOT STOCK. How many times must this be said for it to be hammered into your skull?

Don't believe me? Go and buy the damn game and play through it for yourself. I defy you to find so much as one frame of nudity in the entire game.

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The fact is we dont need Sex and nudity to make a good game


Give that argument up. It doesn't hold water. By your logic, people should only be allowed to have what they absolutely need to survive. That is a fundamentally flawed line of reasoning- if everyone in the gaming community thought that way, we'd still be playing Pong- after all, that was entertaining and it had barely any content at all!

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Just like I have a right at age 15 to buy porn, smoke, drink ect?


Flawed argument: we're talking about a bloody videogame here, not addictive, intoxicating substances. Not the same subject, and you ought to know that if you're old enough to be posting on a message board. Videogames don't give people cancer, they don't destroy your liver, and they certainly won't land you in jail (or dead) for DUI or public drunkenness. You are comparing Apples to Steak- not only are they not the same species, they aren't even in the same kingdom.

But while we're on porn, I've never known a single 15 year old who DIDN'T have a porno mag or two stashed under their mattress. I had a whole damn stack of 'em. There is exactly zero proof that porn has a negative effect on the mental development of teenagers. Nada. Nothing. Zip. Zilch. ZERO. You show me a person who, at age 15, DOESN'T know what penises and vaginas are for (and what they look like, and several dirty nicknames for each), and I'll show you a matching pair of oppressive, overprotective parents. If people in this country had any sense at all, thorough sex ed courses would be taught around the time puberty begins- INFORMATION arms people against corruption, NOT ISOLATION AND IGNORANCE.

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These laws are there to protect us.


Someone's not up on their Bradbury. More government control over citizens' PRIVATE LIVES (which includes how children in a family are raised, what they are exposed to, and so on) is a BAD THING.

Nobody is suggesting that stores start selling M-rated games to 9 year olds- but if you aren't mature enough to deal with the content in such a game by the time you hit your mid-teens, YOU NEVER WILL BE. Teenagers do NOT tend to be as impressionable as younger children; a game like GTA is NOT enough to push them over the proverbial edge and into a life of evil. If that's the case, there are FAR bigger issues that need to be examined in that child's life.


"Arms discourage and keep the invader and plunderer in awe, and preserve order in the world as well as property. Horrid mischief would ensue were (the law-abiding) deprived of the use of them." - Thomas Paine

Remember, kids: illiteracy is cool. If you took the time to read this, you are clearly a loser who will never get laid. You've been warned.
 
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