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Re: Thanks Rockstar [message #175178 is a reply to message #164966]

Tue, 18 October 2005 00:16

NukeIt15
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Registered: February 2003
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Karma:

Colonel

On that note, you don't need the internet to have a great life, if we're going to pull the "you can live without it" card. But wait...you're choosing to use it, aren't you? Wouldn't you be a bit pissed if someone decided one day that the internet as a whole was inappropriate, and unsuited for your use? Yes, you would be- because someone would be second-guessing you and deciding that they know better than you do about what is and is not appropriate for you. The simple fact is that while you don't have a right to such content, you DO have a right to NOT be told what you can and can't watch or play. That goes under the First Amendment- the right to free speech goes hand in hand with a right to hear that speech. Argument invalidated.

The AO rating is completely undeserved. Even with the so-called "sex scenes"- rather, dry-humping- the content is no worse in GTA:SA than what would be found in your average R-rated movie (and the R-rating of the MPAA is comparable in nearly every way to the M-rating of the ESRB). Hell, in some ways, it's a lot more mild- you never see nudity in out-of-the-box GTA (granted, there are some fairly tiny outfits, but not nudity). Not even with the "hot coffee" mod installed. Most theaters don't bother 15 and 16 year olds about getting into R movies, and I've yet to see any stores other than Walmart (I got carded the other day buying Bourne Supremacy- and I'm 19. I very nearly asked for the manager over the suspicious look the cashier gave me after looking at my ID) and OCCASIONALLY BestBuy bother teens about R-rated purchases.

The bottom line is that some suit doesn't have the right to tell people what is and isn't appropriate. That's the parents' job. The rating change caused stores to pull SA from shelves, which impedes the right of the consumer to purchase the game if they choose to do so. It is, in effect, censoring the title from the wider market, not just from the fairly small percent of consumers who will purchase the game before their 18th birthday. It is an obvious political stomp-out move, not designed so much to "protect" anybody as to try to grab a few more votes from the government-daycare crowd in the next election.

What we REALLY need is to find a way to get average-aged gamers out and voting. I'd bet ANY amount of money that if that were to happen, you would never hear any high-profiles bitching about games again.

"Arms discourage and keep the invader and plunderer in awe, and preserve order in the world as well as property. Horrid mischief would ensue were (the law-abiding) deprived of the use of them." - Thomas Paine

Remember, kids: illiteracy is cool. If you took the time to read this, you are clearly a loser who will never get laid. You've been warned.

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		Thanks Rockstar By: icedog90 on Mon, 01 August 2005 00:25
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		Re: Thanks Rockstar By: Doitle on Mon, 01 August 2005 01:03
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		Re: Thanks Rockstar By: warranto on Mon, 01 August 2005 10:31
		Re: Thanks Rockstar By: NukeIt15 on Mon, 01 August 2005 12:08
		Re: Thanks Rockstar By: warranto on Mon, 01 August 2005 17:25
		Re: Thanks Rockstar By: Weirdo on Wed, 03 August 2005 02:35
		Re: Thanks Rockstar By: Jecht on Mon, 01 August 2005 14:50
		Re: Thanks Rockstar By: YSLMuffins on Tue, 02 August 2005 00:28
		Re: Thanks Rockstar By: NukeIt15 on Tue, 02 August 2005 14:00
		Re: Thanks Rockstar By: wyrdbeer on Wed, 03 August 2005 04:44
		Re: Thanks Rockstar By: Renerage on Wed, 03 August 2005 04:58
		Re: Thanks Rockstar By: Scythar on Wed, 03 August 2005 07:31
		Re: Thanks Rockstar By: Renerage on Wed, 03 August 2005 07:48
		Re: Thanks Rockstar By: terminator 101 on Thu, 25 August 2005 14:08
		Re: Thanks Rockstar By: terminator 101 on Thu, 25 August 2005 14:09
		Re: Thanks Rockstar By: Aprime on Thu, 01 September 2005 16:35
		Re: Thanks Rockstar By: Ryan3k on Thu, 01 September 2005 16:36
		Re: Thanks Rockstar By: Chronojam on Fri, 26 August 2005 21:41
		Re: Thanks Rockstar By: warranto on Sat, 27 August 2005 08:38
		Re: Thanks Rockstar By: terminator 101 on Sat, 27 August 2005 11:03
		Re: Thanks Rockstar By: Renerage on Sat, 27 August 2005 21:21
		Re: Thanks Rockstar By: Chronojam on Sat, 27 August 2005 23:35
		Re: Thanks Rockstar By: Lijitsu on Sun, 28 August 2005 01:58
		Re: Thanks Rockstar By: terminator 101 on Tue, 30 August 2005 14:27
		Re: Thanks Rockstar By: icedog90 on Thu, 01 September 2005 13:30
		Re: Thanks Rockstar By: terminator 101 on Tue, 04 October 2005 07:41
		Re: Thanks Rockstar By: Jaspah on Wed, 05 October 2005 14:50
		Re: Thanks Rockstar By: flyingfox on Sat, 08 October 2005 12:57
		Re: Thanks Rockstar By: NukeIt15 on Sat, 08 October 2005 15:54
		Re: Thanks Rockstar By: Renerage on Tue, 11 October 2005 10:01
		Re: Thanks Rockstar By: runewood on Mon, 17 October 2005 17:42
		Re: Thanks Rockstar By: NukeIt15 on Tue, 18 October 2005 00:16
		Re: Thanks Rockstar By: runewood on Tue, 18 October 2005 18:31
		Re: Thanks Rockstar By: NukeIt15 on Tue, 18 October 2005 21:59
		Re: Thanks Rockstar By: runewood on Wed, 19 October 2005 16:16
		Re: Thanks Rockstar By: terminator 101 on Fri, 21 October 2005 16:41
		Re: Thanks Rockstar By: NukeIt15 on Wed, 19 October 2005 21:10
		Re: Thanks Rockstar By: runewood on Thu, 20 October 2005 15:58
		Re: Thanks Rockstar By: Oblivion165 on Thu, 20 October 2005 13:18
		Re: Thanks Rockstar By: Jecht on Fri, 21 October 2005 18:27
		Re: Thanks Rockstar By: cheesesoda on Sat, 22 October 2005 10:20
		Re: Thanks Rockstar By: Jecht on Sat, 22 October 2005 11:11
		Re: Thanks Rockstar By: runewood on Sun, 23 October 2005 07:41
		Re: Thanks Rockstar By: cheesesoda on Sat, 22 October 2005 11:19

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