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Re: After Downing Street [message #162117 is a reply to message #162113] Wed, 29 June 2005 11:27 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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gbull wrote on Wed, 29 June 2005 14:05

Im getting tired of repeating this:

The 3 reasons we were in Iraq:
1.) WMDs, Still pending. There is alot of fucking Desert out there


No, not still pending. That search ended a long time ago. http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/01/12/wmd.search/

And this was the only reason given before the war was launched, rendering the other two irrelevant.

“Our mission is clear in Iraq. Should we have to go in, our mission is very clear: disarmament.” -George W. Bush [3/6/03]

gbull

2.) Help the Iraqis gain independence from the Tyranny of Sadaam.


Humanitarian reasons aren't legitimate reasons to topple a sovereign nation's government.

gbull

3.) Terrorist Ties, and don't tell me they aren't there because our troops get blown up everyday because of them. This is a war on TERROR not just on al Qaeda.


So you believe Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11? And, if I may, was Iraq harboring terrorists that proved an imminent threat to the safety of the United States?

gbull

Also, playing loud music and Sleep deprivation is NOT mistreating prisoners. There was no physical Torture(that was approved of) of Prisoners.



Then why have captives in U.S. custody died as a result of trauma?

http://www.humanrightsfirst.org/us_law/etn/statements/abu-yr -042605.htm
http://www.cageprisoners.com/articles.php?id=4122

And the U.S. is planning an all-inclusive tribunal/death chamber set-up [http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/2979076.stm] absent from such non-sense as juries and the right to appeal.

And violating medical privacy rules in order to implement more effective per-person torture schemes. [ http://fullcoverage.yahoo.com/s/nm/20050623/hl_nm/security_g uantanamo_health_dc]

An FBI Agent says he saw it. [ http://cnnstudentnews.cnn.com/2004/US/12/08/guantanamo.abuse /]

It's more than just loud music. And loud music and sleep deprivation ARE mental torture techniques. You can make people literally insane with only the two.

EDIT: Errors with quotation system

"To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." -- Theodore Roosevelt (1918)

"The danger to political dissent is acute where the Government attempts to act under so vague a concept as the power to protect "domestic security." Given the difficulty of defining the domestic security interest, the danger of abuse in acting to protect that interest becomes apparent. --U.S. Supreme Court decision (407 U.S. 297 (1972)

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