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Do You Think Fighting For President Bush Is Worth Your Life? [message #156504] Wed, 25 May 2005 18:41 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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gbull

Because these people had more direct contact with those who committed the act. What was it again? $25,000 if you kill yourself for Allah? Fact is: Iraq embraced terrorists in its own country instead of at least making it look as if they were taking some sort of action to prevent them. You keep making us remind you of why we went to Iraq when its painfully aparent:

1.) Find Weapons of Mass Destruction - STILL PENDING
- There is alot of Desert out there. Also In the time it took the United States to mobilize they could have been moved to Syria.


http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/01/12/wmd.search/
That one actually hasn't been pending for a while.

gbull

2.)They Supported Terrorists
- If you don't see the facts between the former Iraqi government and their terrorist ties, then you are too stubborn to see the truth as of now.


How about you let me see your evidence?

gbull

3.) Liberate the Iraqi people
- Some say they don't want to be liberated. Man, they must really like being murdered, raped, and thrown into mass graves then.


Considering the incredible number of innocent civilians killed by U.S. bombs and ground forces in Iraq, it seems as if they were better off with Saddam. All in the name of Freedom, though.

bigjoe14

If any "rival clans" try to fight for the control of Iraq, they will come from the surrounding countries around Iraq. That's not really Civil War. Everything has been pretty damn nice within Iraq and it's citizens. The terrorist from the outside are the ones mucking it up for everyone else.


Why would they come from outside the country again? All the Iraqi militants you see in the streets know someone who was killed by U.S. weapons. That's why there mad. Not for some dumbass obtuse reason like "they hate our freedoms".

bigjoe14

How would you know it's in Iraq? It could be inside Iran, Cuba, or Russia for all you know.


Because Iraqi militant groups probably won't be exporting 350 tons of the highest grade explosive they can possible get their hands on anytime soon.

bigjoe14

Sorta like how Clinton sold U.S. Military intelligence to China to get campaign funds?


Or rather, didn't return a campaign check from a mildly shady source.

bigjoe14

Another excuse. If you're so worried about some crappy explosives, care to tell how you would like to take care of it?


The only answer to this problem is not let 350 tons of RDx out into a country going through a civil war like Iraq. And if it does get out, don't let those who made the mistake have a chance to make it again. That's usually how things like this work.

bigjoe14

Bullshit, You know that story caused all that violence. You're just trying to defend your liberal spin machine. Who cares if it's been running for a year? It still caused all kinds of problems. Newsweek published that story with no conformation whatsoever. A stupid move that cost innocent lives. I cannot believe you're trying to defend that peice of crap.


No... This story has been everywhere EXCEPT U.S. presses for over a year now. You just know nothing, so I can understand you not knowing that.

By the way, turns out Newsweek was wrong about the source, but right about the story.

By the way, if you saw what Arabs read in the Middle East, this Newsweek story is the least of their concerns. At one point, al Jazeera seriously reported a story during the first Gulf War about how Allah had sent giant spider warriors out of the desert to drive away the infidel U.S. forces. A bunch of people fell for that one. The Bush administration is just after censorship here.

jball

The U.S. Intelligence may be the best in the world, but that doesn't mean that they can't be one step behind. This is one reason why we haven't gotten Osama yet.


That and we undercut our military offensive in Afghanistan when we diverted much of our armed service's might to a phony war in Iraq.

Crimson

The War in Iraq IS the War on Terror, thus making this relevant.


Yes, that is what mainstream media calls it. Kudos to you.

Crimson

I told that to a liberal psycho when I was at a Protest Warrior counter-protest and her screaming response was "OUR SOLDIERS ARE DYING AND ALL YOU CARE ABOUT IS GAS PRICES!!!!!1111" -- LOL


There are whackos on both sides. Quite frankly, I'd be happier if people like glyde and emperorz weren't in this forum, since they undermine my argument.

EDIT[S]: Grammatical Errors


"To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." -- Theodore Roosevelt (1918)

"The danger to political dissent is acute where the Government attempts to act under so vague a concept as the power to protect "domestic security." Given the difficulty of defining the domestic security interest, the danger of abuse in acting to protect that interest becomes apparent. --U.S. Supreme Court decision (407 U.S. 297 (1972)

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